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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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                "legal_name": "Jeremiah Omboko Milemba",
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            "content": " Hon. Robert Basil, Member of Parliament for Yatta Constituency."
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            "speaker_name": "Yatta, WDM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Robert Ngui",
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            "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary speaker for giving me the Floor. I also thank my brother, Hon. Peter, for bringing this Bill to the Floor of the House. At the outset, I support the Bill. I support it because standardisation does not mean the same functions. So, I do not know where my brother has read that they are going to perform the same function. Through standardisation, we are going to ensure proper utilisation of resources and mitigate aspects or elements that result in wastage of resources through embezzlement of public resources. Through standardisation, we will ensure that we minimise duplication of roles and efforts. That is going to yield efficiency when regional bodies operate under a unified law. I also want to indicate that through standardised functions, these particular bodies achieve a coordinated approach in monitoring the interventions of different bodies and that would give us the desired results and proper utilisation of public resources. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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            "speaker_name": "Yatta, WDM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Robert Ngui",
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            "content": "Another essential point as to why I support this Bill is because it will ensure membership of these bodies are unified or standardised. This will make it possible to give us the desired results by having people who are qualified to deliver or to discharge duties provided for in the different bodies under this law. Although I support the Bill, I will propose an amendment based on Clause 40(1) whereby, the common seal as given or stipulated under this Bill says that a particular person will be chairperson or the managing director of the regional development authority will be the one authenticated to put a common seal. That could result to unnecessary bureaucracies and contribute to delays when discharging duties of these bodies. So, that is an amendment I will bring later when we will have the Committee of the whole House. I support the Bill and applaud the team that crafted it. Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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            "content": " Hon. Geoffrey Mwangi."
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            "speaker_name": "Tetu, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Geoffrey Wandeto",
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            "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for allowing me an opportunity to lend my voice to this Bill. I thank the Chairperson of the Committee for the attempt to bring some order into the management of these regional bodies. However, I have a slightly different view and thought as far as these regional bodies are concerned. You will remember that most of these are Independence-era organizations that were started in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s. While it is good and prudent to think whether the laws that govern them are aligned or not, it is a much more important activity to take stock of what they have achieved in the 30 or 40 years of their existence. It is also very important that we check how well these regional development authorities are aligned with the Constitution and especially to devolution. They have cross-cutting functions. Some of them deal with irrigation, others own dams that generate power and others conduct different economic activities. This is a source of confusion because when we start looking backwards and integration of the different ministries, we find that one regional authority deals with matters domiciled in the Ministry of Agriculture; the Ministry of Energy or sometimes the Ministry of Health. They were all formed around the river basins. The initial tenets were issues around water conservation and things like that, most of such functions are now under the ministries or specific national organisations, whether it is the Kenya Wildlife Services, the Kenya Forestry Services and the various organisations that deal with different conservation activities. There is need to do some soul-searching because a country that desires to develop and progress must constantly review its model. It is time we thought about the model of regional development authorities to see whether it is working for us or not. What have they delivered? At least, we know that the Kerio Valley Development Authority delivered the Kerio Dam of which there has been a push and pull with the Kenya Electricity Generating Company on how to manage that resource. We see different examples of that in various other places. At the outset of devolution, we also established the regional waterworks companies. We have the Northlands Waterworks Company, Tana River Development Waterworks Company, Athi River Development Water Company and others. We need to see whether this brings about duplication in how we run authorities. Because of the constraints that we are having currently in the exchequer and the need to utilise our resources more efficiently, the creators of this Bill would have gone further other than just this cosmetic cure, to bring standardisation in terms of the operations and the laws. It is good Hon. Haji said that the functions have been standardised. When we look at the Bill, each organisation has its purpose cut out. What they are trying to do is to align the laws and put them under one standard Bill. More importantly than the standards, we should ask how we can make them more efficient and effective. Which are the areas of duplication together with all these other waterworks companies that have been created? How do they align with The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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            "speaker_name": "Tetu, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Geoffrey Wandeto",
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            "content": "devolution? How do the cross-cutting functions create duplication and confusion across the various ministry departments? Instead of carrying out a review of integration of the regional authorities, the Committee would have done a much more serious soul-searching and create a totally new framework, one that is aligned with the current realities in the country; one that is aligned to where we want to go as a county to ensure that we have organisations and institutions that serve the purpose. As we speak, these authorities have not delivered much. I do not support the Bill, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
            "speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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                "legal_name": "Jeremiah Omboko Milemba",
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            "content": " Hon. James Nyikal."
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            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal",
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            "content": " Thank you Hon. Temporary Speaker for giving me this opportunity. I support the principle of the Bill. I do so because I ask what the purposes of the authorities were. They were to take advantage of peculiar opportunities in different areas so that those potentials could be exploited, promote local development, support the employment of the people in a much wider area with a big multiplier effect, support business and economic activities in those areas. Have we achieved this?"
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            "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal",
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            "content": "These authorities are known more by their names than what they have achieved. They do not get a lot of support from the Government. Their impact is relatively little. The support given to them is not much. Many of them veer from their mandate. Some invest in real estate and you wonder how that is concerned with local development. Therefore, I support the need to look at them. As my colleague has said, it has not been deep enough. This Bill has given the Regional Development Authorities the same legal structure. It is like taking various Bills, you give them one format and then you put them back together. I do not think that is adequate, although the principle is good. If it is done properly and we look at it at the Committee of the whole House, it may be easier to oversee them. If they have a similar legal framework, the structures we need to oversee them will be easier."
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            "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal",
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            "content": "This Bill raises some issues. There are five linked Regional Development Authorities which deal with three structures: the national Government, their structures and the county governments. We need a more detailed approach, so that these three aspects are cleaned out which I have not seen here."
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