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"content": " Hon. Lilian Gogo."
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"speaker_name": "Rangwe, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Lilian Gogo",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for allowing me to add my voice to these legislative proposals. This is a very important matter which is affecting Kenyans. If we have protected constituencies, there is no way we can think of removing them. I rise to support that protected constituencies should remain as such on the very basis of service to our vision of adequate representation, oversight and legislation. This is the main agenda of Parliament. If these constituencies were created on a given population, time has since passed to the extent that in this period… You know the way Kenyan women are good at giving birth. I know they have done an exceedingly good job of populating these areas. To the extent, that if we review the population at this time, we will get the desired population to maintain them. In any case, we need more constituencies. So, that even if they are above 290, we secure certain constituencies to be set aside for women only so that we end the struggle over the two-thirds gender parity. Also, based on that when it comes to the electoral system, we want constituencies designated to be represented by young people only and others by people with disabilities. This is the case so that designated parties with strong following in those areas can be invoked to choose those preference groups so as to have proper representation as required. I support that constituencies that are protected should remain as so, if possible. The time to re-look and rethink new boundaries has already come. If IEBC was properly constituted as it should be, then we should have protected constituencies remain as such. More so, we should have more constituencies created based on population and any other grading. I have also heard my colleagues speak about Banissa Constituency which has not had a representative for one year; from March to March. This is very unfortunate. Honestly, it is discriminatory, unconstitutional and pathetic. It is important that we stand with fellow Kenyans from this constituency. They must get a representative by going through a process where they can choose a leader to represent them in the National Assembly. This should be expedited. There should be an alternative, if there is no IEBC to conduct elections or it is not properly constituted. We should have a constitutional provision that allows an alternative body to conduct elections, in specific and unique cases. If for whatever reason IEBC cannot be properly constituted, then we should have a constitutional amendment to allow an alternative body to conduct elections so that we do not discriminate. I want to say this is basic discrimination because we do not want Kenyans put in a position where they do not have a representative. I have been told that bursaries cannot be given, in as much as there is a committee to do so. They just want to have a leader like other Kenyans. I stand to support my colleague on the matter that this constituency should have its representative in the National Assembly. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me time."
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"content": " Very well. Is Hon Bashir Abdullahi in the House? Oh no. He is the Mover. You do not need to speak on this Hon. Alice Ng’ang’a. Let us get Hon. Maina Mathenge."
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"speaker_name": "Nyeri Town, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Duncan Mathenge",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity. Allow me to speak to this House and our nation on two concepts. One, national cohesion and two, equal opportunity. It is an injustice to the two constituencies and the several wards that have fallen vacant and cannot have their representatives elected based on a technicality about the gazettement of returning officers. It is not good for this country to violate the rights of a section of Kenyans in The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "the exercise of their sovereignty, based on a technicality over who has the power of the pen to Gazette returning officer. The drafters of the Constitution had the uniqueness of looking at population as a key factor in the delineation of representation. Currently, the face of cohesion in the country is very well demonstrated in the Constitution by creation of two constitutional commissions, the National Cohesion and Integration Commission (NCIC) and National Gender and Equality Commission (NGEC). Both of them look at equality and cohesion. Therefore, the question of preserving the resources that Kenyans enjoyed before the promulgation of the new Constitution is a key consideration. It is my opinion and I hope that this House upholds it, that no Kenyan should lose for another Kenyan to gain. We can guarantee the status quo post-2010 while allowing constituencies that are over the population quota to be granted their right to representation immediately. That will provide us with a win-win situation. The resignation of the IEBC commissioners has happened twice in their last two terms of office. Roselyne Akombe and two others resigned from the previous commission. The Cherera Four resigned from the commission whose term has ended. It means that this country had better come to terms with the reality that it is possible to have commissioners resign in the middle of an election. We must create a transition provision for those realities because it has been demonstrated that it can happen even in the middle of an election, throwing the country into a constitutional crisis. I urge this House to rise to this occasion and fulfil the aspirations of Kenyans who looking up to us. They are wondering why they have given us the powers and the mandate to legislate yet the country is having very many lacuna in the law. Why do we have a technicality in subsidiary legislation that is preventing people from enjoying a constitutional right? Therefore, this House will do a lot of justice to Kenyans if we can, as my colleagues ahead of me have spoken, fast-track the amendment to this Constitution. We do not have to fear the fact that previous attempts by the National Assembly to amend the Constitution have failed. The circumstances are not the same. Now, it is in the mind of every Kenyan that we have seen areas with challenges after 13 years of the new Constitution. There is a need to amend. I support and congratulate my two colleagues for this timely proposal. Thank you."
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"content": " Very well. Hon. Julius ole Sunkuli, you are a beneficiary of balancing. Proceed."
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"speaker_name": "Kilgoris, JP",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Julius Sunkuli",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I wish to make a few remarks in support of this Bill. I join my colleagues in saying that the work of the IEBC should not stop if commissioners have not yet been gazetted. In every organisation, the political wing is not usually as important as the civil service part. That is why governments like those in Italy have always changed so rapidly yet they are still running because there are permanent civil servants employed to run the organisation. We should always say that the IEBC is also in place if officials are in place. The law should say that a certain cadre of IEBC civil servants could become agents of necessity for the organisation. That, I fully support. My second point regards the review of constituency boundaries. It is indeed true that we should save the constituencies in danger of being scrapped because of their population. I contend that we should stop dishing out things based on population size in this republic. It is not the right thing to do. In the past we have adopted a policy of population control in Kenya which I have serious issues with. There was a time they were saying that if you have a smaller family, you would be doing very well and the Government would support you for that. Because of that, some of our communities which already had discipline in terms of population kept their population low. While we did that, the same people who were drafting the policy were busy The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"speaker_name": "Kilgoris, JP",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Julius Sunkuli",
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"content": "making babies and increasing in number. Today, they are saying, give us this thing because we are many. I object, Hon. Temporary Speaker. We obeyed the laws of the country at that time and accepted the policy that population must be kept low. But now we and the whole world realise that population control is not necessarily good for economic growth. That is why kindergartens are closing in Japan and that is why the one child policy has been abandoned in China."
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"speaker_name": "Kilgoris, JP",
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"content": "My colleagues who already have high demographic returns cannot come back to say because they made more babies when the policy was against it, they should now be rewarded for it. This country must be judged in many other ways. For instance, if you want to create a constituency out of Kilgoris, you have to look, not at the population but at the nature of representation in that area. We have Kipsigis, Maasai and other ethnic groups. It is always good to make constituencies as homogenous as possible in terms of their formation. Because some of these little disputes that people have within their constituency is because of the little tribal suspicions. If you can be able to group people more homogenously and not by counting how many they are, it will make a lot of sense. Population can be used as a criterion but it must never be the most important one. Geography cannot be gain said. You cannot imagine that some constituencies like Narok South can be as big as three or four other constituencies in another area, which I do not want to name. But then, ladies and gentlemen from the other area are saying, they require more representation because they have more people. We also require more representation because we have more land and because our territory is vast and difficult. Constituencies must not be created based on the fact that people are many. Indeed, this should extend to many other resources of the country. Every Kenyan citizen should get a share, not based on how many children they were able to produce, but based on the needs of the ones that they have."
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"speaker_name": "Kilgoris, JP",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Julius Sunkuli",
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"content": "Hon. Temporary Speaker, I hope that the next constituency review takes a serious look at these issues. With those remarks, I support."
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