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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, we put an end to this lie by asking Sen. Tobiko to substantiate. I, as a Member of Azimio Coalition, do not recall us proposing to tax Kenyans to the bone to build houses they do not need. I want her to table those two manifestos and point to this House where it says we were to tax Kenyans for them to have these affordable houses. Thank you."
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"content": " Sen. Tobiko, proceed where appropriate. Respond in terms of substantiating."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I was very clear. I said we all in our manifestos had issues to do with housing programmes. I have not talked about taxing Kenyans, but we all had plans to improve the living standards of Kenyans, which includes housing. Improving their living standards by giving them a livable environment, housing being part of that. Article 43(1)) of the Constitution talked about the high standards of health for Kenyans and accessible and adequate housing. We are not going out of the Constitution by passing this law, so that we have Kenyans getting adequate and affordable housing. We should also have reasonable standards of sanitation. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, when we were going through this, a number of groups that appeared before the committee were Nairobians. I am shocked because Sen. Sifuna is a member of that committee and he was there when some of these groups appeared. If there are people who need housing, they are people in the slums in Nairobi, as it is in Kajiado today, Geshagi and Majengo and other areas of our towns. I thought this is something we all aspire to do for Kenyans. What is paining majority of the people here is that it is those of us who have salaries that are going to bear the burden for the sake of the majority of Kenyans who do not have. I have agreed to be taxed and contribute in order for my---"
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"content": " Sen. Tobiko, your time is up. Proceed, Sen. Tabitha Keroche."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me this opportunity to support this Bill. I know this has been politicised for many days and months. I remember the time we came in power and were taken through induction. I remember being shown how this affordable housing will process through. I remember it is a very good thing because it will ensure that everybody will have a decent home. Remember the money people pay for rent today is the same money they will use to pay then own the house. I hope Sen. Sifuna is listening to me. If someone was paying Kshs2,000, he will use the same to pay the same rent he was paying then finally own these homes. The money that will be deducted will be refunded at a certain period. When we fly to Europe, we come back saying how people are living well in a decent life. That is how it was done. We will be the first in Africa to ensure we live a decent life like we compare ourselves with other countries like Europe. So, let us not politicize this."
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"content": "On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard Services,Senate."
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"content": " What is your point of order, Sen. Syengo? Sen. Tabitha, resume your seat. There is a point of order from Sen. Syengo."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity. Allow me to inform Sen. Keroche that you cannot compare Kenya with Europe. When we are talking of---"
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