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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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                "legal_name": "Jeremiah Omboko Milemba",
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            "content": " Hon. Ochanda."
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            "speaker_name": "Bondo, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Gideon Ochanda",
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            "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Bill attempts to sanitise regional development authorities. They have important roles but, in this time and space, their time is gone. All the things that they have been listed to do are also done by other authorities. The Constitution of Kenya, 2010, knows only two authorities: the county governments and national Government. There is nowhere else where another authority is recognised in the Constitution. This House must place the regional development authorities where they belong. They do not belong between county governments and national Government. That is not right. The best we can do is not to sanitise the regional development authorities, but place them under the Regional Economic Blocs. They can be secretariats there. Instead of having Lake Basin Development Authority covering regions from Mount Elgon to Bomet, the authority can be a secretariat in charge of the Lake Region Economic Bloc (LREB). It will deal with specific issues of that region. That will be much more useful than having an illegal authority which has duplicating roles. For example, what should a regional development authority do in bee keeping? In Rift Valley, Kerio Valley Development Authority keeps bees. Lake Basin Development Authority also keeps bees. Why do they keep bees? Why should a regional development authority do that? The Lake Basin Development Authority keeps fish. Where is this mentioned in the Constitution? Where is bee keeping mentioned in the Constitution?"
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            "speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo",
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            "content": " On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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            "content": " Hon. Ochanda, let us hear the point of order from Hon. Oundo."
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            "speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo",
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            "content": " You know he is my neighbour, presumptively and, therefore, I am wondering what is his problem with fish. There are RDAs in Lake Victoria which have fish. I do not know what is out of order about keeping fish and bees. In any case, bees make honey which is sweet. Do you not like sweet things, Hon. Ochanda?"
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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                "legal_name": "Jeremiah Omboko Milemba",
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            "content": " Very well. Hon. Ochanda, you may proceed but make a comment on that."
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            "speaker_name": "Bondo, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Gideon Ochanda",
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            "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. My neighbour is right. This is exactly what I was indicating that fish is found all the way from Busia to Migori. If you want an authority to handle all the economic issues across our counties, then RDAs are the best. We need to restructure rather than have them as independent entities, The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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            "speaker_name": "Bondo, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Gideon Ochanda",
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            "content": "which are not properly recognised anywhere. Then, recommend them to be in county regional economic blocs, where they can perform roles that cut across counties. Right now, counties have very big problems in undertaking their roles. There is a big problem in how Busia and Siaya, who are neighbours, are supposed to relate. Such things are there in law, but they have difficulties implementing them. Where counties have difficulties in implementing services, activities or resources across the regions, then RDAs will come in. If we go this route, they will have something to do. But if we merge, give them roles and place the same resources required by other authorities then, we are not doing the right thing. We really need to re-look into this and think again. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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            "content": " Very well. Hon. Ibrahim Saney."
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            "speaker_name": "Wajir North, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Ibrahim Saney",
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            "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Quite often than not, we always take pride in talking under the tutelage of our very pragmatic and progressive Constitution of Kenya, 2010. In a big way, I feel that this Bill contradicts the spirit and principles of the same Constitution. I rightly agree with my predecessor in contributing to what is regional. We only have two regional entities; that is, the national tier and county tier. We have 47 county governments and those are the bodies that should steer our country towards economic and other developmental frontiers. Having perused through this Bill, in as much as it was once noble when we had our old Constitution and regional bodies were the best to trigger development, it is true this has been overtaken by our Constitution of Kenya, 2010. What we see in this Bill is an overlap of mandate and roles. The role those regional entities are trying to play is what our county governments are supposed to do. I feel it is only fair to give governors what is due to them. We cannot always start a conflict with them. Whether they perform their duties or not is another thing altogether, but what is due to them should be theirs. Money should flow and this role should be cascaded to our devolved units. If you look at one of the roles of a regional authority, you will see a very big overlap of mandate. Conservation and preservation of natural resource issues, database management and many others are also the roles of the national Government in some way. Very soon we shall have conflict of laws. We are trying to legislate so much, to an extent that we will be in a spot where our laws shall be in conflict. Another issue is their boards. We want a leaner government to, at least, save money and resources so that our economy can recover. In this Bill, I saw a Board of Directors of nearly 13 members. This is too big for decision-making and it will be a good area for conflicts in managing the same organisations. I believe they would have done better and created leaner boards. Another issue is the nomenclature. What is a river authority? Where does it start and end? For example, Tana and Athi rivers flow to the Coast, and then the Coast Development Authority picks up from there. Then you ask yourself how they come up with names for those zones. I belong to Ewaso Nyiro North Development Authority (ENNDA), which does not impact my constituency at all. It would rather have been categorised or named otherwise because it has no relevance. Mount Kenya is the source of all rivers which flow into the Indian Ocean and traverses the entire nation. I have not seen Mount Kenya development authority, whereas Nairobi is our capital city. So, developmentally, there is ambiguity. What is a development authority and what does it encompass? What is its limit? Where does it start and end? Without much ado, I will be frank and say that I entirely oppose this Bill. Thank you."
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