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            "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, my next question goes to the Senior Counsel. Counsel, I do not know whether you are conversant with Article 76 of our Constitution. In reference to page 61 of the Deputy Governor’s Volume, from paragraphs 24, 25, and 26, we have been subjected to this relationship of two personal friends who are giving favours to each other in form of soft loans. My question to Senior Counsel is in reference to Article 76 which highlights that a public officer should not use his office in any manner, particularly financial sense or soft loans, to erode the public confidence in favour of a person on insurance. Would you agree with me that from what you have showcased here, particularly in paragraphs 24, 25, and 26, on page 61, the Deputy Governor went against Article 76 of the Constitution? Finally, is on the issue of money being transferred. My question is; why did the Deputy Governor not just withdraw the cash and refund directly?"
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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            "content": " Sen. Orwoba, your two minutes are over. Those are two questions; one to the Counsel and the other one to the witness."
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            "speaker_name": "Mr. Joseph Misati",
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            "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, as it has been raised, I am the biological father to Dennis Misati."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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                "legal_name": "Murungi Kathuri",
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            "content": " Hon. Senators, let us not introduce new and irrelevant issues that were not in the presentations. I want you to avoid those biological issues that you have been asked to do because they did not arise and they are seeking clarifications. Just answer relevant questions that you have been asked. Do not bother about the children and whether they are biological or not."
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            "speaker_name": "Mr. Joseph Misati",
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            "content": "Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for saving me. It is only that talking about issues of who is the mother and who is the father---"
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            "speaker_name": "Mr. Katwa Kigen",
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            "content": " Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the second question was directed at me in terms of the provisions of Article 76 of the Constitution and the need for the propriety of conduct by---"
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            "speaker_name": "An hon. Senator",
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            "content": "On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir."
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            "speaker_name": "Mr. Katwa Kigen",
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            "content": " Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, can I proceed?"
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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            "content": " Please proceed."
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            "speaker_name": "Mr. Katwa Kigen",
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            "content": " Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Regarding whether the Deputy Governor conducted himself properly in accordance to Article 76 of the Constitution, our answer is that he conducted himself properly. First of all, we are not making an admission that this money was meant to make an influence because it was a mere refund. It is our position that borrowing between friends is not prohibited by Article 76 of the Constitution of Kenya. It is our position also that if it were to have been the case that it was meant to be a bribe, that is when you can invoke Article 76 of the Constitution. Our position is that it was not a bribe. It was a friendly loan between the two of them. It was a refund that was made on 28th May, 2023."
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