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"content": "Very clear. In our social discussions, including the refund of the Kshs500,000 and requests like any other person that my son had applied for the job of being a commercial manager, I just conversed with the Deputy Governor about the same issue."
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"content": "Sen. Kathuri): Proceed, Sen. Mwaruma."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is just a question about the visit of Mr. Misati and the sons to the Deputy Governor. Yesterday, I thought that the sons were kept away from the Deputy Governor and Mr. Misati, because the sons were not familiar with the Deputy Governor. However, when Mr. Misati was answering the question by Sen. Wambua, he said that “my sons are familiar to the Deputy Governor”. So, my question would be: Why were the sons kept away from the discussion between Mr. Misati and the Deputy Governor and yet they were familiar with him? What were they cooking? I thank you."
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"content": "Sen. Kathuri): Senators, I can see a trend that some of the Senators are trying to jump the queue. We are just doing a follow-up of the question but you are now becoming more technical. However, you can answer that one. Answer that question, witness."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Senator has said that yesterday, my son Dennis indicated that he has no familiarity with the Deputy Governor. Today, I have said that we are very familiar with the family of Dr. Monda. Therefore, by indicating that if we were familiar, why was it that I was seated far from my own sons as if there was something cooking? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to say, there are some things when you have got some discussions, you cannot include your sons and there was nothing that was cooking."
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"content": "Sen. Kathuri): Okay. Proceed, Sen. Crystal Asige."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. My first question to the witness is, there is a lot of information that differs from the affidavit you gave under oath with the information that you are giving under oath today. So, my first question is, were you lying then or are you lying now? My second question is, in the evidence you gave about the transaction on 28th May, you say that the reason your wife sent the money to your son is so that Dennis can run to an Mpesa point and withdraw because the Deputy Governor requested for cash. Now, at the beginning of your testimony when you were being introduced, your counsel asked you to tell us what you do. You said that you own an Mpesa business. My second question is, why would you say that your son did not find any Mpesa branches open to withdraw the cash and that is why he sent it through the phone when you own your own M-pesa business which you could have withdrawn from there through your son. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want the witness to agree with me that the Deputy Governor has higher financial capacity than he has for several years within their friendship. He has earned more than Mr. Joseph Misati. My question is: Are you giving testimony that may differ from your affidavit and what you are saying today because you might be weary of the well running dry in terms of the financial favours that you receive from the Deputy Governor, through your long- term friendship. Thank you."
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"content": " Thank you. Mr. Witness, proceed."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, to the first question, I never got the loan. The Senator has asked if I lied or if I am lying today. That is a no. Mr. Deputy Speaker and Senators, on the second question, she asked why I did not send the money directly to the Deputy Governor if I am operating the M-pesa. One, my M-pesa balance by that time had no such balance. Two, the Deputy Governor wanted money in cash. That is why I opted for the money to be sent to my son, Dennis. He was to go to the nearest shop to withdraw. Unfortunately, we found that the shops had closed."
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