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"content": "I have one question, Hon. Temporary Speaker, with your indulgence. Madam Lucy, was the deputy governor bribing for shortlisting or recruitment?"
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, looking at the time that he had approached me, at the beginning of May 2023, and the time that they sent the money on 28th, just after the interviews, I could connect the dots that it was supposed to influence the process."
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"content": " At the time of receipt had you communicated the outcome?"
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"content": "At the time of receipt, we had not communicated."
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"content": " That is all, hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " I believe that is all for this witness, except for the clarifications that the Senators would want to have. I have a whole"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "list of about 12 Senators who are interested in interventions. I will try and balance both sides, but we could do fewer than the 13. Senator Seki, please proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. To the witness, I will just go directly to the point. How can you relate the 15th and the 25th dates that you indicated that the interviews were done? How can you explain these two dates that are coming in your Statements and the presentation from the legal counsel?"
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. 15th is when Altrade Consultants submitted the report, and in the shortlisting at the bottom, the date of 15th is written as 15th May 2023. That is where it caused some confusion because it is already on the list of shortlisted candidates. It is the day that we received the report from the consultants."
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