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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. To the witness, my questions are as follows- When was the meeting that you mentioned you had with the Deputy Governor, where he proposed supporting is preferred candidate? When were the successful candidates informed in this recruitment process? The Counsel for the Deputy Governor mentioned that there might have been an attempt to reverse, is there any evidence of the Deputy Governor’s reversal from Safaricom? He also made a point to direct Senators to the 8th February statement by the witness where she spoke of a silence that was heard on the phone. How should hon. Senators interpret the silence as being, noting what silence means in a court of law? The Counsel for the Deputy Governor spoke of there being an error, I want them to kindly let us know the phone numbers for Lucy and Gladys in order to see how close those two numbers were."
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"content": " Sen. Crystal Asige, you are overloading that witness with a raft of questions. If you could let her answer, then it would be reasonable."
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. On question one on when we had the conversation with the deputy governor, it was after 28th, the following week, on Thursday around 4th May, 2023. The second question, on when the communication to the candidates who were successful was supposed to be done, we did that communication on 2nd June, 2023."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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"content": " Mr. Katwa Kigen, I believe there is a question that was directed to you or your colleague."
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"speaker_name": "Mr. Katwa Kigen",
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"content": " Madam Temporary Speaker, the instructions that I have is that ordinarily, when you make an attempt at reversal, it does not show on your M-Pesa. So, we do not have documents to show the attempt to reverse. On the question of silence as captured in the statement of 8th February, our position is that whereas the witness said the deputy governor kept quiet, in our affidavit in response to that contention, we have said that indeed the deputy governor did not keep quiet, but informed the witness that the money was meant to have been sent to somebody by the name Gladys Aminga and it was a mistake to have been sent to Lucy. We have shown in our bundles how he saved the two names next to each other which led to that mistake. I hope I have answered the question."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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"content": " Proceed, Sen. Tabitha Mutinda. Sen. Sifuna, your chance is coming, so hold on."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I have brief questions. For how long have you known the Deputy Governor and how has your work relation been with him since you have been the Managing Director for the past one and half years in the institution where you work? Secondly, in both your statement and affidavit, you have a keyword known as “approached”. When you say; “Robert Monda approached me saying---” How was the approach? Was it physical, a phone call or an email? How was the mode of the approach that you stated? When you sent the money back to Dr. Monda, what was his response? When he approached you for a request of a candidate, what was your response to him?"
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I have known His Excellency, Dr. Robert Monda, from the time they got into office. That is from August 2022. Relation in the workplace has been a positive one because he is a stakeholder since county governments are shareholders. We have had good relations with the county government which he serves as the deputy governor. The relationship and the support that we have been receiving from the company shows that we have been having a good working relationship. The third question is to do with the word “approach”. On 4th May,2023, it was a Thursday, he called and summoned me to his office at Gusii Stadium. When I went to his office, that is when he told me that he had an interest in one of the adverts he had seen in the Daily Nation Newspaper. I told him that if the candidate qualifies, he will get the job because it is purely based on merit and qualifications. Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker."
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