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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I will be very brief. Thank you, Ms. Lucy, for keeping calm. I want to ask this question because there are some grey areas. You are referencing that you did not make the phone call because it was 9.34 pm on a Sunday night. The assumption is that you do not speak to your bosses or anyone within work past certain hours. So, my question is, have you never called the deputy governor past a certain hour in reference to any other issue other than this?"
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. We have never spoken with His Excellency, the deputy governor, anytime beyond 5 pm. The few times that we have spoken with His Excellency, is during official hours and often morning hours. This would have been a different scenario if I had called him at night."
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"content": " Sen. Osotsi, you may proceed, but do not repeat the questions, please."
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Ms. Lucy, this is the third time that you have appeared before the Senate. You have appeared before the CPIC Committee, which I chair as the Managing Director of GWASCO, and during those occasions, the Committee has given you a number of directives. The first is on matters bordering on the fight against corruption. Secondly, it is matters bordering on the skill set and the competitive recruitment of staff in your company. Are your actions in this particular case motivated by the recommendations of the Committee to you?"
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, yes, I want to say that in the year 2021, the company had serious governance issues, and we were summoned to the Senate. We have been summoned twice. Through the support of this Senate and the recommendations that he has been able to make, the company and the shareholders took that seriously and put in place the proper governance structures of the company. Through those structures, the company has made tremendous steps towards positive progress, improvements. The corporate image of the company has changed."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Therefore, this process, the company through the Board of Directors, and even though the shareholders, one, would not have entertained matters to do with corruption. Secondly, the company was set to get the right skills for the right position so as to improve performance."
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"content": " Sen. Chute, you take under one minute to ask a question and then maybe, at 9:10, we move on to the next."
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. This House is a House of records and facts. Ms. Lucy, on a Statement of 8th February 2024, indicated very clearly that she--- let me read just this part - After receiving applications from interested persons, the board shortlisted candidates for the post of commercial manager and invited them for interviews on 15th May, 2023. She went on to give time to people like Mr. Boyani Ongera 10.00 a.m. and Mercy Vati, 10.30 a.m. Madam Temporary Speaker, what I do not understand this: In her witness statement, she says she invited these people on the 15th. She went on and said that they were supposed to come on the 25th and 26th. I want some clarification on that. I also want to know if she could agree with me that she lied in her statement which she wrote on the 8th February, 2024 and the same on the affidavit dated 8th March, 2024. On the statement of 8th February, she stated that the Deputy Governor kept quiet. How can she forget? In February, she states that the Deputy Governor kept quiet, but again in her affidavit - which is only a month afterwards - she says he had informed her that he was giving her the money because of certain issues. Let her agree with us that she lied in the statement she gave on 8th February, 2024."
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"content": " Ms. Lucy can you tackle that quickly?"
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