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"content": " Thank you. The videos that were played today, did you have an occasion to witness any of those recordings being taken?"
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"content": "Some of them, yes, I did, Madam Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Can you point us to one of them that you had the occasion of being present when it was recorded."
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"content": "One that was very touching was when I witnessed an old"
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"content": "talk about being told to sell 14 acres of land. They had a transaction with His Excellency the Deputy Governor. Midway, the transaction did not end well, and then the Deputy Governor was asking for a refund. Another one was a woman, who clearly demonstrated that she is selling mutura . She was asking, if she is selling mutura and trying to educate her children, and when they go through school, then the leaders will ask her to raise the Kshs800,00. Where will she raise it from? That touched me."
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"content": " You have also heard an allegation tabled by the defence team that the governor was involved through the use of subcounty admin and ward admin in the public participation process. What would your answer be?"
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, that is absolutely false. We have separation of powers. You are aware that even when we have public participation for the Budget Appropriation, the Executive does its public participation, and the Assembly also does its public participation."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "This particular public participation originated from the Assembly. There is no way that the Executive could have been allowed to carry out this public participation. So, it is not true."
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