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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, the witness says that he wants his brother to be impeached and removed from office because he has changed since he was elected. If that wish is granted, do you think when he comes home, he will go back to his senses and become a better brother and you are going to live happily ever after?"
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"speaker_name": "Mr. Reuben Monda",
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I believe so because I think my brother became what he is because of the powers he is enjoying and misusing. He ended up misusing the powers and abusing his office. If he comes home, I believe he will change."
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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"content": " Sen. Wambua, you may have the Floor."
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"content": "Mine goes to the counsel for the Deputy Governor. On Page E8 of the DG bundle, Paragraph 43, the DG has alleged that the 65 pieces of timber, according to evidence produced, belong to him. Has the Counsel presented evidence of ownership by a way of title deed for the land in dispute on where the trees were cut?"
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"speaker_name": "Mr. Kelvin Michuki",
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"content": " Madam Temporary Speaker, from the evidence from the Deputy Governor and that of his brother, Mr. Rueben, this is communal property still under the title of the father, although, he has designated portions for each family members. That is why they have a communal homestead and several areas where they farm or plant. I indicate, the father is still alive and he holds the title over the property."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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"content": " Sen. Okiya Omtatah, please, proceed."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Okiya Omtatah",
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, what is coming out is that these people are like squatters on their father’s land. I have a problem of understanding the question of ownership when they are squatters. How can we apportion ownership of the trees under the circumstances where one says they bought seedlings and planted them? One of them was supposed to buy seedlings and the other plant for him. However, they bought seedlings at Kshs6,000 planted, but they were never compensated, yet they are squatters on that land. So, who is the owner of the trees?"
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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"content": " Mr. Reuben Monda, please proceed."
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"speaker_name": "Mr. Reuben Monda",
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"content": "I think the Senator is right. Actually, the owner of the trees is our father, even if I planted them. This is because he is the holder of the title deed."
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