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"content": " Hon. Nyikal and Hon. Makali Mulu, resume your seats. You have been heard. This matter will proceed as per the law and procedures of the House, and not as per the feelings of Members on what they feel is wrong or right. Let us proceed!"
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"content": " Before we proceed, let me listen to Hon. Makali Mulu on what is out of order."
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"content": "Allow us to listen to Hon. Makali Mulu. Go ahead."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, with all due respect, the clauses have been voted for. We have no problem with that. You and I have been in this House for over 10 years. When we are in the Committee of the whole House, we always go clause by clause. In a situation where you read from Clause 1 to 46 and there are amendments, you need to guide the House."
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"content": " That is okay. Can I give guidance on this issue? It seems there is some lack of understanding of the procedure. I want you to listen carefully. When we are in the Committee of the whole House dealing with Bills, clauses that have no amendments are not considered for debate at all. All the clauses I have read have no amendments. That is the point. No Member in this House has an amendment to the Senate’s amendments. So, that has to be clear to you. Let us proceed. Hon. Chairman, move them one by one."
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