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"speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Junet Mohamed",
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"content": "My humble submission is that I want Members to go back to their conscience and let us reject this thing called CAS once and for all. Thank you very much."
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"content": " Hon. Sabina Chege, the Jubilee Party Whip in the National Assembly."
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"speaker_name": "Nominated, Jubilee",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Sabina Chege",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for giving me this opportunity. At the outset, I stand to support the proposed amendments on the four statutes. I will dwell much on the assumption of the Office of the President and the National Security Council Acts. I am happy that the Vice-Chairman was able to clarify the issue of the Attorney-General and the Seal. I am quite satisfied with the Committee's stand that the Seal remains with the Attorney-General. On the issue of National Government Coordination Act, my colleagues have dwelled on the issue of the CAS with the assumption on who the position has been made for and the reasons why. There have been a lot of mentions about the Constitution. This Constitution was made by the people and laws are made by the people, for the people. The law is not cast on stone and that is why even when we were supporting the BBI, there was an oversight on some few things when the Constitution was made. Remember when we were passing the Constitution, we were told 80 per cent was okay and we would amend 20 per cent. We went through a journey with Hon. Junet and the rest of the Members who were for the BBI. It was quite a loss when it was challenged. It is purported that the CASs positions will be held by politicians. One of the things that makes me support the Bill is that we have the role of the CASs and their qualifications spelt out. When Hon. Junet says that we will not get mama mboga, I would like to inform that they are not limited if they qualify. It is very important for us to go through the qualifications of the CAS. A mama mboga who is eligible with bachelor's degree qualifies. We have Mama mbogas with bachelor’s degrees."
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"content": "(Hon. Junet spoke off the record)"
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Sabina Chege",
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"content": "Hon. Junet, you were heard and I also want to be heard. Hon. Temporary Speaker, you need to protect me from Hon. Junet. There is a bachelor's degree from a university recognised in Kenya, a person who has knowledge and experience in public service and satisfies the requirement of Chapter Six of the Constitution. Those are qualifications that are proposed. A person is not qualified to be a CAS if they have been convicted or they have been judged bankrupt or they hold any office in a political party. It is made clear that anybody who holds a political party position or anybody who is a legislator or anybody who is a public officer or holds any State office cannot be a CAS."
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"speaker_name": "Nominated, Jubilee",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Sabina Chege",
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"content": "Hon. Temporary Speaker, I would like to remind my colleagues that currently, we are Members of Parliament, but one day we will be referred to as former Members of Parliament. I fail to understand why we discriminate against former Members of Parliament appointed to serve in other capacities. Some have only served one, two or three terms. This does not mean that they do not qualify to serve in any other office once they are not re-elected. I pity many young people who are joining politics. We have seen less than 30 years old becoming Members of Parliament. We all know the nature of politics in Kenya, but does this mean that if they do not get re-elected at the age of 40, they are automatically disqualified from holding any other State office? Therefore, as we criticise the proposed names, let us see ourselves being former Members of Parliament in the future. We should treat our former colleagues the same way we would want to be treated once we leave office. I do not understand why we make it look bad for politicians to be appointed to offices because they did not make it back to Parliament. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "(Hon. Farah Maalim spoke off the record)"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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"content": " Hon. Sabina Chege, do you want to be informed?"
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"speaker_name": "Nominated, JP",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Sabina Chege",
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"content": " Let me hear what he has to say. If it is not good information, I will reject it."
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"speaker_name": "Daabab, WDM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
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"content": " For your information, it is only in the last election that a substantive number of the former Members of Parliament came in. The tradition has been that only a maximum of 15 per cent of incumbents get re-elected. As you put it, when we come here, we behave like we will never come out of it until we become victims after the next election. As someone who has been around for longer than most, I have seen this happen time and time again. The majority of us who are here now will not come back to this House after the next election."
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