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"speaker_name": "Moiben, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Phylis Bartoo",
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"content": "Thank you, Hon Temporary Speaker."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachel Nyamai): Hon. Joyce Atieno Osogo Bensuda, Member for Homa Bay County."
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"speaker_name": "Homa Bay County, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Atieno Bensuda",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for giving me this opportunity. I rise, on behalf, of Homa Bay County to support this critical Motion on providing a safety net for caregivers of persons with severe disabilities. It has been brought by Hon. Dorothy Ikiara, a very strong member of the Decentralised Funds Accounts Committee. As a colleague, I must support and acknowledge the sensitivity of women on sensitive issues around their environment. No wonder, she has looked into this as a critical area that needs to be addressed by this House through the Motion on providing safety nets for caregivers who take care of those who are really disabled among us. Hon. Temporary Speaker, this Motion requires synergies. Hon. Ikiara has brought up an issue that should make us, legislators, think how various departments or ministries should create synergies to ensure that caregivers are operating in conducive environmental situations besides the stipend that we are advocating that also needs to be given to them. From my experience and observation, caregivers are of various cadres. Along the streets, we find the ones, whom at observation, are themselves vulnerable, some of them are underage and some are malnourished. At the same time, they take care of the disabled. In terms of synergies, I would like this Motion to go a notch higher and ensure that other than the department of social protection, the Ministry of Health comes on board to ensure we have adequate data on the caregivers themselves. County governments have social centres, dispensaries and health centres. Alongside that, we would like to map out a clear registry. As it has been said by other contributors, we need to have data centres on caregivers with adequate data information to give us prior information on who should be a caregiver. We cannot have the underage taking care of those who are disabled simply because we do not have clear policies and because they are relatives of these people. Some of these people are so much disabled to a point that no one wants to come to their aid. This must be clearly spelt out. Still on synergy, the Ministry of Transport should also come on board because the majority of the disabled we see in the streets need actualisation of non-motorised transport. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "These policies are in the shelves because we do not have clear implementation on non- motorised transport systems so that safety of the caregivers, other than the stipends that we are talking about and the financial support that the Motion is also addressing, can be realised and achieved. This is a very ripe time because recently we debated the Budget Policy Statement (BPS). I believe it is time that this must be factored in and realised. Hon. Temporary Speaker, still on the synergy to support the Motion, the Ministry of Education should come out clear and map out the students who are along the streets. I remember some years back, there was a proposal to ensure that all children who were found along the streets were to be removed. I do not know what happened because there has been laxity on that. We still see young children on the streets with tins, pushing and supporting the disabled, and at the same time saying nisaidie. At what point as a Government are we going to clearly come out so that what we state is what we act upon and implement? Hon. Temporary Speaker, the PWDs need a lot of care. Recently, I attended the launch of the National Council for Persons with Disabilities (NCPWD) Strategic Plan for 2023 - 2027. It is a great concern that the caregivers and PWDs have not been given much financial support that is required. Even NCPWD requires adequate financing. I agree and support the Deputy Whip of the Majority Party who talked about the high cost of living, and that people cannot put food on the table. When he said that, I was just smiling because this is what we have been fighting against. I was very happy. I wish she were here. She has just left the House. This is the time that I must shake hands with her and tell her that she has really hit on that point. It is not only ourselves, the people without disabilities, at this time which God has given us this opportunity, who suffer under the high cost of living. What about the caregiver who is doing voluntary work and has denied herself/himself the equal opportunity of going to find food to put on the table? How are we going to empower them? It requires serious synergy; it requires serious public participation; it requires coming together and deliberating on how we are going to have speedy provision and support for the caregivers. This brings me to the point that the Ksh2,000 that has been proposed is not adequate. If the data is very clear, the age limit for caregivers is identified and mapped out. It must not just be left to the family members. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I agree that disability can afflict anybody at any point and at any age. It does not discriminate. This burden of leaving the responsibility to the caregivers is not right. At times we have situations where the person with disability is the only person existing in a family. In such a case, who will take care of the person with disability? I believe that this is an area that this House should take up seriously. We need to look into the caregivers’ social and economic welfare, safety, environmental operations and the labour they are sacrificing to take care of others. I support and believe that if we truly work hard as legislators representing PWDs, it is going to come out clearly. In conclusion, as County Women Members of Parliament, we are elected to ensure that affirmative action is realised, and that the vulnerable communities, women, youths and PWDs are supported. We do not need to beg any further. If we are honest and the contributors in this House are very honest that we really need to represent the PWDs, any time the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) is advocating for anything, and any time the narrative in this House is on NG-CDF, the National Government Affirmative Action Fund (NGAAF) must also be there. That should not be a mere joke. We represent the PWDs, and caregivers are part of persons with disabilities. It is time to stop telling stories. We have various constituencies that we are standing in for. So, we must be true to the course of why we are elected. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Jayne Kihara, Member for Naivasha. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"speaker_name": "Naivasha, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Jayne Kihara",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for noticing me. I have seen very many Members who have come after me and they have contributed. I was wondering whether my card is working or not. I would have wanted to speak when Hon. Atandi was here. He brought a lot of jokes and politics as if he was addressing baba . I know baba would not have taken those sentiments seriously now that we are supporting him for the Chairmanship of Africa Union Commission. I am sure he would not have loved what Hon. Atandi was saying. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I wish to congratulate my sister, Hon. Dorothy. This is a very important Motion that all of us must support. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I woke up to disability when I saw on television a child who had been kept under a barn with chicken only to realise that he was coming from my constituency. The mother of that child had six other children, and did not know what to do with him. She just left him there, never bathed him, never shaved his hair, never removed his teeth nor did anything for him. He was full of fleas and jiggers, and because he lived with the chicken in the barn, he did not know how to talk but only crowed like a chicken at 3.00 a.m. That was a child whose parent did not know what to do with him. I, therefore, started advocating for PWDs. As Hon. Mutunga has said, these people hide the persons with disabilities One, is because they are not able to take care of them and secondly, because of the stigma. When we started advocating by giving them presents and going around while identifying them, we realised that we needed an information and resource centre, which I opened – the Disability Resource and Information Centre (DRIC) located near the hospital. The DRIC is where we bring the disabled and give them information so that they can know that there is something that can be done when they are in that situation. We have not thought much of the caregivers as a country. However, we know that taking care of a disabled person may it be a child or an elderly person is tasking. And we have realised that people grow old to a point that they are disabled, and at some point, would need to be taken care of. On 3rd December, the International Day of Persons with Disabilities (IDPD), we ferry them to our functions or to their functions because we understand their problems. These people do a lot of work. It is actually a full-time job. In my course of work with PWDs, we also had a young girl who had two children with cerebral palsy, and therefore, were not growing up. They were severely disabled, and would not fit in a normal wheelchair, and therefore, had special wheelchairs. That young girl's husband left her, and I do not know why the men are not brave enough to bear the sight of children or PWDs. This girl ended up giving up those children to a home because her friends were all over jumping and enjoying life but, here she was, an orphan, and with children with disabilities, and we could understand. We even tried to open a shop for her so that she could use the room behind to take care of her children as she sells her goods in front but still it was too much for her. This is a full-time job, and they need to be taken care of because there is nothing else they can do. That is the only job that they are doing. As I conclude, one can be disabled at any stage in life, and might need to be taken care of. This problem mostly, gets the people of vulnerable means, and are not able to even feed. Therefore, the chain of poverty goes on and on until people give up in life. I, therefore, think it is timely. It is very timely to consider caregivers because they do so much. You may not be disabled but you are sick and cannot do anything for yourself. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I wish to support and congratulate my sister. I do not know why some Hon. Members are telling me to stop talking. I have a lot to say about disability because this is something I have been doing since I joined Parliament. I got to know something I had never thought about. Thank you very much. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Jayne you have 10 minutes. They are telling you to stop talking so they can get a chance but your 10 minutes, is your right. The next opportunity goes to Hon. Japheth Nyakundi, the Member for Kitutu Chache. Hon. Kipsanai, I can see you are being very strategic but you came after him. Please proceed."
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"speaker_name": "Kitutu Chache North, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Japheth Nyakundi",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also want to thank Hon. Dorothy Ikiara for bringing this Motion. It is one of the most progressive Motions I have ever seen in this House. This is because caregivers are very important people who support PWDs like our brothers, sisters, cousins and mothers. For sure caregivers do a lot of work. They spend their time caring for PWDs, showing them the way, dressing and doing a lot of things for them. To me, this is a progressive Motion and we should give caregivers social support and cash transfers. We have been giving social cash transfers to the elderly people and this can be given to caregivers supporting PWDs."
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"speaker_name": "Kitutu Chache North, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Japheth Nyakundi",
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"content": "We should also give them psychosocial and economic support especially those caring for people with mental disabilities and the very sick. Some of the projects that the Government is doing like the housing project, caregivers should be the first people to be given those houses so they can support PWDs better. Let us support this Motion brought by Hon. Dorothy Ikiara on providing a safety net for caregivers. Thank you."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Rashid Bedzimba, Member for Kisauni."
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