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"content": "The only way that we can complement our oversight fund is by understanding this expenditure; you have requisitioned to pay the following developers, the following people who have supplied you - Why have you not paid them? Why have you deviated money to someone else? That is when we will cure this cancer of pending bills. As I stand here today, I know of members of families who have committed suicide. I will bring a Motion to this House, and I hope all of you will support it, to compel counties to pay all their pending bills before the end of this financial year. Why do you budget it? The only way we can deal with this mess is by looking at the budget performance of every county. Each Senator should stand here and say, “I can authoritatively state that my county has utilised this money because I have been armed by the report that I am getting from the CoB, and I understand that money is being spent.” Mr. Speaker, Sir, I second this. It is timely that we get all those reports and analyse them so that we can interrogate these governors."
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"content": " Sen. Madzayo, you have the Floor."
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"content": " Asante, Bw. Spika. Nami najiunga na maoni yaliyotolewa na Kiongozi wa Walio Wengi, Sen. Cheruiyot, ya kwamba, kitambo kidogo, kulikuwa na pigeon hole ; mahali ambapo tulikuwa tunapata barua zinazotoka katika vitengo vya Serikali hususan Ofisi ya Controller of Budget. Tulikuwa tunapata nakala hizo na barua nyingine ambazo zilikuwa zinatuhitaji kwenda katika mialiko ya aina yoyote tuliyokuwa tunapata kupitia kwa hivyo visanduku ambamo barua zetu zilikuwa zinawekwa. Tokea sijui ni lini, sijaweza kuona hivyo visanduku vikitumika. Ni kweli kabisa ya kwamba visanduku hivyo huenda vimefungwa sasa. Tunaomba ya kwamba ikiwa inawezekana, kupitia uwezo wa Ofisi yako, Bw. Spika, ama unaweza kuamrisha vifunguliwe na iwapo kuna message zozote za Serikali, ama hususan maelezo ya matumizi ya katika kaunti zetu, ziwe zinawasilishwa kwetu. Mara nyingi, itaonekana kama Maseneta wanaingilia taratibu za ufanyikazi katika kaunti zetu. Lakini utaona ya kwamba majukumu ambayo tumepewa sisi kama Maseneta, ya kuangalia kwamba pesa zinatumika kwa njia nzuri, inakuwa dhaifu sana ambapo hatuwezi kupata nafasi kubwa isipokuwa kutegemea ripoti kama hizi. Ingekuwa vyema ikiwa tutapewa nafasi hiyo ili pia sisi tuwe tunaangalia, kuangazia na kuwarekebisha wale wanaoongoza kaunti katika majukumu ya kutumia pesa. Kuna pesa zinazotumika kiholela; pesa zinatumika kwa njia ambayo pengine sio nzuri lakini ikiwa tutapata nafasi kama hiyo, tunaweza kuwaeleza wale ili wafikirie ya kwamba sisi tunawachunguza ama tunataka wachukuliwe hatua. Tunataka kuona ya kwamba pesa ambazo zinaenda mashinani zinatumika kwa njia nzuri; pesa zinazoenda mashinani zinatumika vile zinavyotakikana. Ombi langu ni kwamba hivi sasa tuwe na uhusiano mwema na Ofisi ya Controller of Budget ili aweze kutuletea ripoti na hatua ichukuliwe mara moja."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
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"content": " Thank you, hon, Senator, for your interventions. This is a very serious matter because it touches on the function and mandate of the Senate. More particularly the mandate of oversight. For Hon. Senators to offer effective oversight, they must be armed with information which must be transmitted to The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "the Senate in formal reports. If these reports are not forthcoming, then you do not have any information with which you can probe any malpractice. If I heard the Senate Majority Leader correctly, there was an established practice that these reports were transmitted to the Senators either quarterly or sometimes monthly. That practice has since stopped, for reasons nobody can explain. The only person who can explain why these reports have stopped flowing to the Senate is the Controller of Budget. Therefore, pursuant to Standing Order No.1, I direct that the Controller of Budget (CoB) appears before the House on Wednesday, 27th, March, 2024, immediately after Question Time to explain to the Senate- 1) Why those reports ceased flowing to the Senate. 2) A commitment and undertaking that these reports from the day she will appear before you going forward, shall be transmitted to the Senate either monthly or quarterly as demanded of the Office of the COB by the Constitution. The Office of the Clerk is also directed to facilitate the appearance of the CoB on Wednesday, 27th March, 2024. Hon. Senators, I will give limited intervention to all the Statements that have been made. We shall take half-an-hour for the interventions starting with Sen. Sifuna."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir for your indulgence. I want to make brief comments on the request for Statement by Sen. Orwoba on the bed capacity at Mama Lucy Hospital. Indeed, as part of my oversight work, I have visited all the Level Five county hospitals. The situation at Mama Lucy is quite dire. I wanted to inform this House that we have got some serious support from the Standing Committee on Health, very ably chaired by the Senator of Uasin Gishu County - Sen. Mandago. Mr. Speaker, Sir, in fact, this Committee has helped us so much to reach a resolution to expand the county’s capacity to treat Nairobians by reaching an agreement with the national Government to hand back Mama Margaret Kenyatta Hospital in Korogocho. It is most disheartening that when I visited Mama Lucy Hospital on 1st February, 2024, I was informed that the county has not made any follow up on the directive by the Senate Committee on Health and our facilities continue to be strained. We have projects to expand capacity that have stalled at all the Level Five county facilities. In fact, for the Mama Lucy Hospital, there is a Kshs344 million project that was initiated by the Nairobi Metropolitan Services (NMS) stalled at 45 percent. The contractor is owed Kshs50 million. Therefore, they abandoned the site. The Committee has been so gracious and supportive to Nairobi City County that they had scheduled a visit to these county facilities on Monday, 11th, March, 2024, which was a few days ago. The most heartbreaking thing is that on the eve of the visit we received communication that the County Governor had made himself busy, therefore, the Committee was not welcome to tour the county facilities. I inform the Chairperson of the Committee that we have problems in Nairobi City County. If you go to Mbagathi Hospital, there is a stalled project where the contractor The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "abandoned site. He is owed Kshs15 million. I have complained about other uses of money and my colleagues have spoken about foreign travel, for instance. Nairobi City County is leading in foreign travel expenses. If you compare what is being used in foreign travel or even just billboards, we spend Kshs20 million for billboards, yet Kshs15 million is what is required to get the contractor on site in Mbagathi Hospital. The situation is the same at Mutuini Sub-District Hospital, where the most ridiculous thing is happening. Chairperson, I want you to go and confirm that there is an X-ray machine at the hospital, but it cannot be used by the people in Dagoretti South because there are no doors to the room where the machine is placed. When you speak to the management of the hospital, they say that roughly Kshs500,000 to Kshs700,000 would get them doors for the X-ray room and they would stop sending people all the way to Mbagathi Hospital just to get X-rays. This Kshs500,000 is the value of two billboards for one month in Nairobi City County. It is just plain ridiculous. I encourage the Committee and its Chair, whether the Governor is present or not, kindly, come and visit these facilities so that you can see for yourselves, even when you tackle Sen. Orwobas’ inquiry. Do not wait for the Governor because he is going to find an excuse for you not to visit. I have more than enough capacity as the Senator of Nairobi City County to host the Committee. Whatever the Governor was going to give you, in terms of accommodation or traffic marshals to clear the road, I can assure the people of Nairobi City County will give you the necessary support so that you can visit all these facilities, see for yourself, and help the people."
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"content": " Sen. Mandago, proceed."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, allow me to comment on the Statement by Sen. Sifuna of Nairobi City County and confirm to this House that on Monday, 25th March, 2024, whether the Governor will be present or not, we are going to visit those facilities. We shall definitely follow up with the recommendations we had already made. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I had made a request to this House that it is extremely important that we re-introduce the Committee on Implementation so that when reports and resolutions are made, they are implemented. I also thank the Senate Majority Leader for raising the matter of reports. These are the issues the Senator for Nairobi City County would be able to check on the spending that is not priority and should be re-directed towards service. Mr. Speaker, Sir, allow me to comment on the Statement by Sen. Cherarkey on the issue of subsidized fertilizer. We are now in the planting season in the North Rift region. As we speak today, farmers are having challenges because of the delays in the delivery of subsidized fertilizer and the Ministry’s’ decision to deliver fertilizer to the National Cereals and Produce Board (NCPB). Particularly, today, a lot of fertilizer is being delivered to the NCPB Eldoret Depot creating a lot of traffic and unnecessary queues. This Statement is timely, and we would like the Ministry to ensure that subsidized fertilizer is distributed to farmers’ store in the cooperatives. One of the progressive The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "cooperatives in Moiben sub-county, which carries about 8000 farmers and requires close to over 10,000 bags of fertilizer, has not received any bags. We would like the Ministry to move with speed and ensure distribution of subsidized fertilizer particularly for Uasin Gishu, Trans-Nzoia, Bungoma and Nandi counties who are now in the planting season is prioritized so that we can have food in this country. The Ministry needs to know that any delay in distribution of fertilizer to these counties will result in reduced production. What most people in the logistics chain do not understand is that the maize crop grows under timelines and has days it is supposed to mature. Therefore, when there is delay, we shall have reduced productivity. We want to encourage the Cabinet Secretary to also address distribution of fertilizer where the fertilizer has reached stores. This morning, we had complaints from farmers from Kipkabus in Kaptagat Ward. There were four lorries of fertilizer, but they had to wait the whole morning to this afternoon. A farmer had to complain, and we intervened and fertilizer could be distributed. The Ministry should check on their officers. These could be avenues where logistics officers are waiting to be bribed in order to release fertilizer to a few farmers. We would want them to make it efficient and ensure small scale farmers who are going to collect less than 10 bags are given their own queue so that they do not have to queue with large-scale farmers. I support these Statements."
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