HTTP 200 OK
Allow: GET, POST, HEAD, OPTIONS
Content-Type: application/json
Vary: Accept
{
"count": 1608389,
"next": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=api&page=137740",
"previous": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/?format=api&page=137738",
"results": [
{
"id": 1393801,
"url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1393801/?format=api",
"text_counter": 231,
"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Sen. Orwoba",
"speaker_title": "",
"speaker": null,
"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I stand on Standing Order No.101(1) on contents of speech: “Neither the personal conduct of the President nor the conduct of the Speaker or any other judge.” It is not in order that Sen. Edwin Sifuna is referencing the President and in the manner with which he is doing. This is based on our Standing Order. If he can articulate his points without having to drag either the name of the President or the Speaker or any of the persons that are mentioned under Standing Order 101 under the content of speech."
},
{
"id": 1393802,
"url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1393802/?format=api",
"text_counter": 232,
"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Sen. Sufuna",
"speaker_title": "",
"speaker": null,
"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, should I respond before you make a decision?"
},
{
"id": 1393803,
"url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1393803/?format=api",
"text_counter": 233,
"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
"speaker": null,
"content": " Yes, you could respond."
},
{
"id": 1393804,
"url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1393804/?format=api",
"text_counter": 234,
"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Sen. Sifuna",
"speaker_title": "",
"speaker": {
"id": 13599,
"legal_name": "Sifuna Edwin Watenya",
"slug": "sifuna-edwin-watenya"
},
"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I am not discussing the conduct of the Head of State. It is a matter of historical fact that it was a pronouncement he made regarding the controversy surrounding the Arror and Kimwerer Dam projects. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
},
{
"id": 1393805,
"url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1393805/?format=api",
"text_counter": 235,
"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Sen. Sifuna",
"speaker_title": "",
"speaker": {
"id": 13599,
"legal_name": "Sifuna Edwin Watenya",
"slug": "sifuna-edwin-watenya"
},
"content": "There was controversy at that particular point in time as to how much money had been lost or alleged to be lost at that particular project. The recommendation from ICPAC that I am reading from the report was that we should get regular reports from the Government itself, including details of any commitment fees that have been paid. If this was being done, the point I was making was that there would be no room for such controversy. I am not discussing the character of the President. I know that under the Standing Orders, if I wanted to do so, I would bring a Motion. It is something I am happy to do because there are many questionable conducts from the head of State in this Government. However, I have not brought a Motion yet. Madam Temporary Speaker, please protect me because you are the Chair of this Session."
},
{
"id": 1393806,
"url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1393806/?format=api",
"text_counter": 236,
"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
"speaker": null,
"content": " Sen. Sifuna, let me give a ruling with respect to what Sen. Orwoba has raised. I have looked at Standing Order 101, the mode in which Sen. Sifuna has brought out that issue has not, as of yet, discussed any conduct that could be adversarial to the person of the Presidency. So, you may proceed to debate, but avoid raising the questionable issues unless you are willing to give justification."
},
{
"id": 1393807,
"url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1393807/?format=api",
"text_counter": 237,
"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Sen. Sifuna",
"speaker_title": "",
"speaker": {
"id": 13599,
"legal_name": "Sifuna Edwin Watenya",
"slug": "sifuna-edwin-watenya"
},
"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for that direction. The Head of State is a former Secretary General (SG) of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM). He has the skin to take this criticism. I do not know why some Senators on this Floor feel the need to be over protective of the President. The President has thick skin just like all the SGs of ODM do. In conclusion, I would have expected to see some of these good recommendations by ICPAK finding their way into the recommendations of the committee. I do not understand why they have been ignored. You should see this in the broader perspective of conversation about the place of public participation. Organizations such as these represent very serious people. They take their time to appear before committees of this House in order to guide the House on what should be done or not. It is only fair that the recommendations they make find their way to the final report. Madam Temporary Speaker, we may not be financial experts. However, we are all concerned by the state of debt of the country, some of the proposals from Government and whether they will be effective. It is not something to be taken lightly when we, as a country, are offering the highest rates in a buy back of the Eurobond so that we can claim we are ready and have repaid all the debt. There was a statement that was made by Government in December. That they had been ready to redeem the Eurobond and it was going to be done without any pain to the Kenyan taxpayer. As I have demonstrated, we are going to pay through the nose six years from today in 2031. It is not far. This Eurobond will be due, and we shall be in the same hole that we were told in the Kenya Kwanza Manifesto to stop digging. We want people to walk the talk, make promises and follow through, and not to pull the wool over the eyes of Kenyans by dazzling us with terminologies and complex economic theories. The true measure of the economic status is in Kenyans pockets. I thank you for the opportunity to contribute to this Motion. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
},
{
"id": 1393808,
"url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1393808/?format=api",
"text_counter": 238,
"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
"speaker": null,
"content": " Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey."
},
{
"id": 1393809,
"url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1393809/?format=api",
"text_counter": 239,
"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Sen. Cherarkey",
"speaker_title": "",
"speaker": {
"id": 13217,
"legal_name": "Cherarkey K Samson",
"slug": "cherarkey-k-samson"
},
"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity. I thank Sen. Faki for ably moving the Motion although he was reading contrary to our Standing Orders. I do not want to believe he was reading but cross-referencing while moving. Article 211 of the Constitution is on borrowing by national Government. The Constitution 2010 took more than 20 years to be drafted. One of the salient features is prudent financial management, especially on public finance. That is the reason the drafters and Kenyans approved this Constitution by over 60 per cent. Article 211 talks about how the national Government can borrow; borrowing with discipline. It also talks of legislation, reporting mechanisms to Parliament, which allows openness and transparency as is envisaged under the principles of Public Finance Management. It was realized that any Government must borrow to finance some of the projects. Until we are able to walk on our own, we shall keep crawling. The Kshs10.48 trillion both domestic and external public debt is not a creation of Kenya Kwanza Government."
},
{
"id": 1393810,
"url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1393810/?format=api",
"text_counter": 240,
"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Sen. Cherarkey",
"speaker_title": "",
"speaker": {
"id": 13217,
"legal_name": "Cherarkey K Samson",
"slug": "cherarkey-k-samson"
},
"content": "Unfortunately, Sen. Sifuna has walked out. The mess we are trying to work on was built over the years after Independence. Madam Temporary Speaker, the Kenya Kwanza Manifesto you steered as one of its midwives highlights the issue of fiscal discipline. It is good to borrow, but we must be disciplined, prudent, account for every shilling, dollar, or whatever currency it is, that we borrow to finance projects. We are aware that the money being borrowed both locally and externally is meant for development of this country. I thank the President for making history today. The signing of the Affordable Housing Bill into an Act of Parliament is one of the monumental times in this country. Sen. Lemaletian was at a social function in Samburu County. I do not know whether it was Principal Secretary Ololtuaa's homecoming. She requested that a road be constructed in Samburu County. Where will the money come from? We must borrow. When we raise taxes, the same people who are busy shouting loudest here and mourning than the bereaved are the ones saying that we should not overtax Kenyans. However, when they go to podiums, they say; Rais tunaomba . My apologies for mixing languages. They say, Mr. President, we are requesting. I am trying to justify why the Government must borrow. The moment you tax Kenyans, Sen. Oketch Gicheru, with his litany of political ideologies, will be on the road stating that we should not tax Kenyans. However, they will complain that the Government has not developed Nyatike in Migori County and that they need roads and bursaries. Governors are on our necks, stating they need Kshs450 billion for counties through equitable shareable revenue. In this financial year, our fiscal deficit is over Kshs700 billion. In short, we should allow the Government to borrow. I am happy that we amended Section 50 of the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act to move the public debt ceiling to a percentage of GDP. This is significant as stipulated in our manifesto. We are working towards achieving 55 per cent of public debt to the GDP. Currently, the public debt is at 67 per cent against the GDP. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
}
]
}