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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise to support the Report of the Committee on Finance and Budget on the debt management strategy. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this cannot be overstated in this country today. If Kenya manages its international debts and the local debts, then this country will move in strides and uphold the dignity of its people. If there is anything that has really put pressure on Kenyans, it is the international debts that we have from all over the world; lenders, for instance, the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the World Bank, Eurobonds and all that. Nonetheless, I believe and I see the Kenya Kwanza Government led by the President H.E William Ruto has started on the right footing, that we mop up our own resources and finances to finance our programmes, so that we reduce international borrowing. Kenyans may feel a pinch for now but I believe it will pay off on time. What also ails this country besides these international debts is how these resources are spent after being borrowed. There are too much financial leakages in terms of corruption. If we address the issue of corruption both at the national and county levels, then we will see the value of the resources that we are borrowing. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, as of now, a lot need to be done and priorities needs to be put right. However, beyond just the borrowing, there are Kenyans and regions that have mega projects because of the money that is borrowed. The tragedy is, even if these resources are channelled towards specific regions, the rest of Kenya must pay. This is what I have always been saying, that we need equity and fair distribution of these resources, so that every Kenyan feels the value of what has been borrowed and also the pain of paying. Otherwise, there are those who will feel greater pain because they have not seen the projects that these resources have been used to do. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Expressway has become very useful in Nairobi. I am sure everybody feels the value of that project and feels it came to save us from the traffic jam. I just wish the Expressway extended beyond Mlolongo and maybe a little further towards Kitengela. There is traffic jam in Kitengela that is always a gridlock of around two to three hours every evening and morning and yet Kitengela accommodates many people who are working in Nairobi. If only the Expressway can extend a little further towards Isinya, it will open up the area and many Nairobians will go and enjoy the fresh air of Kitengela and its environs. You will have your homes there and we are very hospitable people as we do accommodate all Kenyans. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I know you know there are many Meru people in Kitengela. It is the face of Kenya. However, without the necessary infrastructure ---"
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"content": "(Sen. Cherarkey consulted the Clerk-at-the-Table in front of Sen. Tobiko)"
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"content": " Sen. Tobiko, just a minute. Sen. Cherarkey, it is not in order to stand between the Speaker and the Member contributing, because you are gesturing at me when my eyes are on Sen. Tobiko."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you know Sen. Cherarkey has a lot of energy. He needs to be reined in a little so that he is orderly. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, what I was saying is that the environs of Kajiado, Rongai, Kiserian, Ngong and Kitengela are the open areas towards Nairobi. There is no room in Kiambu and Thika and yet these Nairobians want to move from the flats of Nairobi. They want to move from the congested estates in Nairobi such as Buruburu and the others. People want to own homes, compounds and a bit of a place to keep even chicken and whatever. That room can only be found in Kajiado. It should go to everybody in this country and every policymaker, the Cabinet Secretary and the Principal Secretary that Kajiado County needs infrastructure. In Kajiado County, we need roads, electricity and access to clean water. Fresh water from Ndakaini Dam should extend to Kitengela and the environs. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, just look beyond the Wilson Airport, you will see very beautiful lands. Go towards the Kiserian-Pipeline Road, you will see very beautiful lands. I know each one of you would want to own a home there, but we do not have roads and The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "the necessary infrastructure. That is why you are all congested in Nairobi. There is room that could open up for you. Kajiado is part of the Metropolitan. This metropolitan, I have always said, looks like a pie. The pie is Kiambu, Murang’a, Machakos, Kajiado and Nairobi. However, in that pie, the rest of the part of the pie has been developed, and there is a piece of the pie that has been left. I do not know whether these Ministries that make the necessary policies to direct resources, they think the resources taken towards Kajiado will be to take care of cows or human beings. I keep looking at the social media pages in Kajiado County and it shocks me. Those who have moved from Nairobi to Kajiado are always asking for tarmac roads and they think it is the leadership of Kajiado that is denying them tarmac roads. It is not. We just need the resources distributed equitably so that every county can enjoy the necessary facilities. Today, Kitengela is a big town, but it does not have sewer systems. It is a sad story. Even Ngong and Rongai towns do not have sewer systems. We need to develop all areas equitably so that even when we are paying for these debts, we pay while we know where they have been utilized instead of telling us every day that we are paying for Mau Mau Roads in Kiambu. I do not know Mau Mau towards where. We have paid for these roads since the year 1963, and we are still putting tarmac roads in every village in central Kenya, in Mt. Kenya, but we never have roads towards the rest of our counties. This is where it pains. This is where you find some Kenyans feeling like they are not part of this country and they have been neglected. Maybe because of our numbers, we may never be able to raise a president or a deputy president or those positions that matter, that distribute the resources and so, we keep lagging behind. Mr. Deputy Speaker, we just want to be included as part of this country. We want roads. I do not know whether you live in Kitengela, because most of you do live there. I look at people saying, “Oh, we need Old Namanga Road tarmacked. Oh, you know, the former Member of Parliament (MP) has not brought tarmac.” I wish I could, but I was not going to use my father's cows to do the tarmacking. It is, definitely, the national resources to do the tarmacking. For 10 years, I have been asking for Old Namanga Road to be tarmacked. I have been asking for the Kenya Urban Roads Authority (KURA) to come to Kitengela. It is now that they have come after my noise in 10 years. It hurts, when those who are moving from Buru Buru, the middle-class estates, come out there and demand that we have tarmac, yet they have left tarmac in Nairobi. Can we be given resources and the necessary infrastructure to accommodate your brethren and the rest of Kenya? If then our community does not deserve, then we have your brothers there. They are in Kitengela. The Luos, Sen. Oketch Gicheru, are there in Kitengela. We have all Kenyans there. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we just want to ask for equity. We need these resources. It pains me every day to live in Nairobi when my home is a stone-throw away, but I cannot live there because we have no roads. I am going to welcome you for some mbuzi The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "in my home. You will feel it, because it is so near. I can see the lights from Nairobi, but I have no road to go home. Also, when we talk about our counties, I do not know whether it is corruption that was devolved to our counties, but it is a pathetic state. I agree with Sen. Oketch Gicheru about the pending bills in counties. It is just going to be a huge crisis very soon, if we do not manage the pending bills. I wish this House, because it oversights counties, can reign over the counties about the pending bills and the various governors about these pending bills so that when a governor finishes his term, he should also complete payments of all the pending bills of that term. The new governor can have a chance to start on a clean slate, so that your development is seen and maybe the development of the other person, can now comparatively be looked at. However, when you inherit pending bills, you may spend a whole time trying to sort them out. We need as a country to think on the direction we are channeling our resources. I support."
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"content": " Thank you, Sen. Tobiko. You have spoken so passionately on Kajiado roads. The way you have begged me, I wish I am the one who gives out the roads. I could have commanded all the roads to be brought there from tomorrow. I hope, Sen. Cherarkey, you have noted that date in Kajiado. Do you remember? So, thank you very much indeed, Sen. Tobiko. Sen. Mandago proceed."
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