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"content": "it simply means the Government is competing with the private sector to borrow, which leads to high interest rates. For example, debt attributable to Treasury bonds is about Kshs4.2 trillion, debt attributed to Treasury bills is about Kshs565 billion and debts attributable to overdrafts and International Monetary Fund (IMF) special drawing rights is about Kshs220 billion. As a strategy, the Government should focus on reducing domestic debts so that it does not compete with the private sector in chasing debts and therefore, affecting the development of the private sector. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, allow me to talk about the whole process of engagement, as Parliament, on matters of laws or strategies around financial matters. We have just passed the Budget Policy Statement (BPS). One of the most fundamental things that this House said in that policy statement was that we are going to allocate Kshs415 billion to counties. We know that the Division of Revenue Bill is coming. We will also have an opportunity to process the County Allocation of Revenue Bill. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, yesterday, I was surprised to see the National Assembly debating the Division of Revenue Bill. That is not a good thing because the Division of Revenue Bill is one of the fundamental Bills that hugely affect counties. Therefore, it should originate from this House. Why should it originate from the National Assembly such that it is the one to discuss division of revenue to our counties ahead of the Senate? I think something is wrong in this Parliament. Something is fundamentally wrong. We are seeing a trend where Bills that affect counties hugely originating from the National Assembly and we are not doing anything about it. We had the Affordable Housing Bill, the Water Bill, and probably many other Bills that will originate from the National Assembly. I said here some time back that this Senate has to wake up. We must wake up and fight for devolution in this country because at this rate, we are going to be partners in destroying devolution in this country. We know we belong to various sides of the political divide; the minority and the majority sides. However, the most fundamental thing that should make us work for the Kenyans is Article 96 of the Constitution, which says that we exist to protect the interests of our counties. We cannot protect the interests of our counties if we allow devolution to be fought using the very institution which is supposed to protect devolution. Even as we talk about this, we must ask ourselves serious questions. That is why I support that as a bicameral Parliament, we need to define which aspects should originate from the Senate and those from the National Assembly. We should not allow Members of the National Assembly to be the ones to determine for us how much should be taken to the counties. We have already said that we want Kshs415 billion shillings to go to our counties. Let that stand. That cannot be varied in the Division of Revenue Bill. I want to say clearly that the only House that has the power to determine how much should go to the counties is the Senate. Some two weeks back, I was at a function where a commissioner for the Commission on Revenue Allocation (CRA) stood up in the presence of Sen. Cherarkey The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "and myself and said that they are going to give counties a certain amount of money. I told her they do not have powers because the Senate has the power. They only recommend and we can decide to go with their recommendation or reject it. People are misusing the powers to give resources to our counties. The Senate has the power. Even as Members of the National Assembly discuss the Division of Revenue Bill, they must not interfere with what we proposed in the Budget Policy Statement (BPS) where we said that we want Kshs415 billion to go to our counties. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I do not want to go further than that. All I want to say is that management of debt in this country is the most important aspect of our economic management. A lot of emphasis must be put on ensuring that this country lives within its means. One of the things that contribute to high increase in debt is when you try to come up with ambitious budget, then you have a budget deficit. When you have a budget deficit, where do you get money from? You either tax people but if you do not continue taxing people anymore, you will borrow. So even with this budget we are proposing, I do not see how they will manage the issue of debts. They will still be forced to borrow so that they can manage the budget deficit. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I support."
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"content": " I now call on Sen. Faki to reply to the Motion."
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"content": "Asante, Bw. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa fursa hii kujibu Hoja hii ambayo ni muhimu sana katika Bunge letu la Seneti pamoja na Bunge la Kitaifa kwa ujumla. Kwanza, ninawapongeza na kuwashukuru Maseneta wote ambao wamechangia Hoja hii wakiongozwa na Kiongozi wa Walio Wengi katika Bunge hili; Sen. Cheruiyot, Sen. Sifuna, Sen. Olekina, Sen. Orwoba na Sen. Oketch Gicheru, ambaye pia ni mwanachama wa Kamati ya Fedha na Bajeti; Sen. Maanzo, Sen. Kisang’, Sen. Tobiko ambaye amezungumza kwa hamasa kubwa, Sen. Mandago ambaye alikuwa Gavana wa Gatuzi la Uasin Gishu na mwisho, Sen. Osotsi. La msingi ni kuwa, ijapokuwa dhiki ya deni imepungua kwa sasa lakini bado kuna hatari ya dhiki hiyo kurejea tena. Kwa sababu tumeona kuwa Serikali ilisema kwamba italipa deni la Eurobond kufikia Disemba mwaka uliopita lakini hawakuweza kulipa na walipopata mkopo mwingine mwezi wa pili, ulikuwa ni mkopo wa US$1.5 billion ilhali deni la Eurobond ni US$2 billion. Kwa hivyo, ijapokuwa malipo yatafanywa kwa wakati, lakini swala la dhiki ya deni yaani debt stress ni kitu ambacho kitaendelea kuwa katika shingo letu kwa muda mrefu utakaokuja. Mapendekezo yaliyotolewa na Maseneta wote ni mapendekezo ya kufaa kuhusiana na vipi bajeti yetu itakavyokuwa. Tumeona kuwa kutakuwa na upungufu wa Kshs703.9 bilioni katika bajeti ya mwaka huu. Upungufu huo utafadhiliwa na madeni ya kutoka nje ya asilimia 55. na vile vile madeni ya kutoka ndani ya asilimia 45. Katika madeni yatokayo ndani, Serikali itakuwa inapingana na wananchi pamoja na wafanyibiashara kupata pesa za kufanya maendeleo ama kuziba pengo lililoko na hiyo itasabisha mkurupuko wa riba katika nchi yetu. Vile vile mkurupuko huo utazidi The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "kuongeza bei ya bidhaa katika nchi yetu kwa sababu benki nyingi zitakuwa zinakopesha Serikali pesa kuliko kukopesha wananchi ambapo itakuwa shida kupata malipo hayo. Sen. Sifuna alichangia kwa kusema kwamba tumepuuza mapendekezo ya Institute"
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"content": "of Certified Public Accountant of Kenya (ICPAK)"
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"content": "lakini hayo sio kweli kwa sababu tumeweza kujadili mapendekezo yote na kuyaweka katika Ripoti ile na kwamba hatukuweza kulichukua pendekezo hilo kama pendekezo la Kamati sio kwa lengo la kuyapuuza mapendekezo ambayo yametolewa. Suala la ufadhili wa kutoka kwa watu binafsi yaani public-private partnership ni suala ambalo tumejadili hata katika Bunge lililopita. Wakati tulipokuwa tunaangalia mabadiliko ya debt ceiling yaani mabadiliko ya juu ya deni, tuliangalia masuala ambayo Serikali ilikuwa imependekeza. Mojawapo ya pendekezo ambalo lilitolewa na Serikali ni kwamba walikuwa wamepitisha sheria ya ile public private partnership na ya kwamba sasa miradi ya Serikali inapelekwa katika misingi ya public-private partnership kuangalia kama wanaweza kupata mfadhili wa kufanya mradi ule ili waweze kumlipa pole pole. TheNairobi Expressway ni moja ya miradi ambayo imeweza kufanyika na ni kweli tunaweza kusema ya kwamba ni mradi ambao umeweza kufaulu kwa sababu tumeona malengo yametimia na wananchi wanalipa bila kulalamika kwa njia yoyote. Cha kustaadhabisha ni kuwa Serikali hii ilipochukuwa mamlaka ilijaribu kupuuza ile miradi na mikakati yote ya nyuma ambayo ilikuwa imewekwa kuhakikisha kwamba ile sheria imeweza kutumika kuwafaidi wananchi. Bw. Spika wa Muda, nimefurahi kwa sababu Serikali inajaribu kuchukua mbinu hii ya kuleta maendeleo katika nchi yetu ya Kenya. Hii njia itasaidia kupunguza pressure ambayo inatokana na upungufu wa fedha ambazo Serikali inayo kwa sasa na kuhakikisha tumepata maendeleo. Miradi mingi inaweza kufanywa kwa njia hii ya ufadhili wa kibinafsi ili kupunguza madeni na kuweka pesa katika nyanja za kuzalisha kwa haraka zaidi kuliko zinazozalishwa kwa miradi inayochukua muda mrefu"
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"content": "Ninafurahi kuwa Maseneta wengi wamechangia kuwe na ripoti za mara kwa mara ambazo zinakuja hapa kutoka kwa Hazina Kuu ya Kitaifa kwa sababu tukiletewa Mswada kama huu wa kuangalia mipango ya deni na mikopo ya Serikali hatuiangalii tena hadi mwisho wa mwaka ujao. Mwaka ujao mwezi wa pili, tarehe 15 ndio tutaletewa Medium Term Debt Strategy (MTDS) nyingine ili tuiangalie upya. Hatuna ufuatilizi kuhakikisha kuwa yale ambayo yamependekezwa na serikali yanatakelezwa na kuhakikisha kuwa deni inabaki chini ya asilmia 55. Tulikubali mwaka jana kubadilisha mfumo wa deni kutoka kwa kiwango cha juu cha Kshs10 trilioni ambacho kilikuwa na tukaelekeza kiwe ni asilmia ya mazao katika nchi yani Gross Domestic Product (GDP). Hatari ni kuwa kwa sasa tuko asilimia 67.9. na kuna uwezekano wa kuenda juu kwa sababu tumeipa Serikali mpaka mwaka 2028/ 2029 ili iweze kupungua na kufika asilmia 55. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"speaker_title": "",
"speaker": null,
"content": "Kwa huu muda inaweza kuenda kwa njia yeyote. Inaweza kupanda au kushuka. Ni hatari kwa sababu tumeipa Serikali a blank cheque ili waone kama wanaweza kukopa bila vizuizi vyovyote"
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