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"content": " Member for Marakwet West, Hon. Timothy."
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"speaker_name": "Marakwet West, Independent",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Timothy Kipchumba",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to contribute on this very important Report of the Auditor-General. I wish to thank the Chairperson of the Committee, my friend, Hon. Fatuma Mohammed, for the good work that she has done in chairing the Committee. Hon. Temporary Speaker, the issue to do with alcoholic drinks in this country was initially under the national Government. The famous “Mututho Law” was passed in the year 2010. At that particular time, the National Campaign Against Drug Abuse Authority was under the national Government but, pursuant to the promulgation of the Constitution 2010, that The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "particular function was transferred to the county governments because health became a fully devolved function. Since the function is devolved to the counties, each county government has passed a legislation to suit it. The challenge now is that we have 47 different legislations regulating the use of alcoholic drinks in this country. This is something that we need to rethink as a country. It even becomes a challenge in terms of audit by the Committee on Special Funds as it questions or brings issues in terms of jurisdiction, whether a committee of this House can check the excesses in terms of the legislation of the county government or audit a devolved function. This becomes a big challenge. Hon. Temporary Speaker, counties are raising funds pursuant to the legislations that they pass. There are committees on alcoholic drinks at the county level. However, we need to re-look into it. Can the Special Funds Accounts Committee look at whether the funds raised by the county governments meet the needs of the people in those counties? I have a challenge. If you look at this Report, this Committee, unless I am advised otherwise, is not able to ascertain and audit the funds that are channelled through the county governments. What is happening now is that the county governments have formed committees and sub-committees to issue licenses and regulate alcoholic drinks in the counties. The question of devolution and that of the functions of the county governments in holding those funds comes into question. We need to come up with a way that the funds raised by the county governments through licensing can rehabilitate those people who, by using alcohol to their detriment, has affected them in one way or the other. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I support this Report but, as a country, we need to re-look at the legal framework. We need to re-look at the architecture of devolving health. The biggest challenge is that we have the devolved county governments. They are raising funds, but are those funds meeting the required needs? Are those funds used properly in terms of even establishing rehabilitation centres at the county level? I support the Report; but majorly, I reiterate that the issue to do with alcoholic drinks and the issue to do with National Campaign Against Drug Abuse Authority should be returned to the national Government. This is so that we have one autonomous body regulating the use of alcoholic drinks in this country. It is apparently clear on the face of record that county governments have been unable to regulate. That is why you see their fight against alcoholic drinks in this country by the national Government. This is because it is apparently clear on the face of record that the county governments are unable to properly regulate and license alcoholic drinks at the county level. This function, in my opinion, should be taken back to the national Government. Let us have one autonomous authority regulating the issuance of licenses, issuance of registration of bars in this country and other drinking joints. It is clear that the county government has failed on this mandate, particularly on the national campaign against drug abuse. That authority, which was taken to the county government or lapsed because of devolution, should be taken back to the national Government. This is so that the national Government becomes autonomous in regulating alcoholic drinks in this country. I support this report."
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"content": " Very well. Member for Narok North. Hon. Agnes Pareiyo."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to support the Report on the Special Funds Accounts Committee. As the other Members have said, it is interesting to see that when you go back to our constituencies, most of our youth are vanquished. They are in between the county government and the national Government. This is because the county governments issue the licenses. As a result, you find that most of our youth are now involved in drinking of the illicit brews and end up dying. We shall not have a generation that will inherit this land if we do not take care of it. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "I support the report. I want the involvement to either be in the national Government or totally go to the county governments. When we go fighting those illicit brews, the community says it is the Government that issues the licenses and yet, do not care what happens to the people thereafter. Those special funds must be seen to go back to the people, to have rehabilitation centres. That is where we can take our children or our women. You find that women are also involved in the drinking. I support the report. Thank you."
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"content": " Thank you. Member for Nyamira County, Hon Jerusha."
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"speaker_name": "Nyamira County, JP",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Jerusha Momanyi",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to also support this Report. Indeed, as my fellow colleagues have said, when we go down to our constituencies, most of our young generation has been totally destroyed simply because of the alcoholic drinks which are now rampant. We do not have a central place to identify those people who are giving out the illicit alcohol. There is no central place where the reports are taken to. We have, on one hand, county governments and on the other hand the national Government. If we say health is devolved but some issues are not properly outlined in terms of how they should be dealt with, then we put our communities in a very awkward situation. The way our young generation is indulging in alcoholism signifies that, as a country, we are not able to control and even know how our youths are faring. I support this Report and urge this Assembly to make sure that we have regulations that cut across to caution county governments on what they are supposed to do, specifically those that licenses people who are not supposed to be licensed. I support and urge the Committee to make sure that the Report is implemented so that we help the new generations. If we are not careful, we shall not have a country. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Thank you. I see there is no more interest in this specific Motion. Hon. Dick Oyugi, you had not put your card. I will give you a few minutes, and then we will go to the Mover."
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"speaker_name": "Luanda, DAP-K",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Dick Oyugi",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for granting me an opportunity to also add my voice to this important subject. As the former speakers have rightly noted, alcoholism has been a subject of great concern to us as a country and, more so, to the young generation. We are losing a whole generation. Looking at those reports and the way they are geared towards ensuring that those special funds are protected, there is concern about how county governments issue licences. Of great concern has been the haphazard way in which the licenses are issued in this country. There are illegal businesses that are taking place in this country, which are purported to have been licensed by county governments and yet they are not. I agree with the Report that has been tabled before the House. I agree that we need to bring sanity to how those funds are monitored, and even control the licensing of those businesses. Recently, there was a great calamity in Kirinyaga when licenses were purported to have been issued by the county government. Crazy businessmen and women ended up importing or distributing illicit drinks which were “licensed”, but were poisonous substances. Luanda, where I come from, is a constituency that is not so far from the border of Kenya and Uganda, and is quite porous. Illicit drinks and substances have always been sneaked into the country through the Uganda border. Those things have found themselves one way or the other in my constituency. As a result, we have lost a large number of young people who end up intoxicated by poisonous substances that are disguised as alcoholic drinks. I support the Report by the Committee that we need to re-look at how licenses are issued. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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