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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Wakili Sigei",
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            "content": " Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, proceed."
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            "content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I rise to second the Conflict of Interest Bill (National Assembly Bills No.12 of 2023) as moved. I will be very brief. I take this House down memory lane. This is not the first time that the matter of conflict of interest is coming before Parliament. In 1971, after the death of Tom Mboya, Prof. Peter Anyang’ Nyong’o wrote in his book that he went to Singapore and asked the leadership why Kenya and Uganda were lagging behind when actually they had started on the same footing as Singapore. The President quickly told him that they chose the path of prosperity while we chose to kill Mboya. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Mboya was very clear in his mind that it is an open secret that proximity to Government and especially higher office in Parliament, is a way to create great wealth. With this realisation, Mboya went and President Kenyatta formed the Ndegwa Commission. Ndegwa was the then the Chairman of the Central Bank of Kenya, a highly respected banker. Ndegwa, upon interviewing many parastatals, including, the National Social Security Fund (NSSF), the National Health Insurance Fund (NHIF) and others, then allowed public servants to own property and participate in business with public entities. That is when the rain started beating. The Ndegwa Commission recommendations allowed civil servants to then participate in doing business with public entities. That was the beginning of a real conflict of interest and the rest is history. Therefore, it is not a surprise to those who bother to fight for this country that some of the richest families in this country are unfortunately, the same families that have enjoyed the opportunity to lead the country at the highest level. I, therefore, support this Bill because it now wants to categorically legislate on the sensitive issue of conflict of interest. The object is to provide for management and regulation of conflict of interest in the discharge of official duties. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, as the Mover of the Bill has told us, this aims to prevent officials from using positions of power for personal gain. It is very difficult. This is the real meaning of Chapter Six on integrity and leadership. People in high office dole out special favors to interest groups, members of their families, people they share membership to clubs with, fellow alumni and in the process, the weak lose out. It played out in this House two weeks ago when a little boy had to sell his business worth Kshs800,000 to access opportunity. This is what this Bill is all about; conflict of interest. I, therefore, join the Senate Majority Leader in urging colleagues that we pass this law, so that we move yet again a step closer to realising the meaning of Chapter Six of our Constitution on leadership and integrity. I beg to second."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Wakili Sigei",
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            "content": " I will call upon any hon. Senator who wishes to contribute to this Bill and I will start with Sen. (Dr.) James Murango. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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            "content": "Asante, Bw. Spika wa Muda. Nimesimama siku ya leo kujiunga na Kiongozi wa Walio Wengi na pia Kiranja wa Seneti, kuunga mkono Mswada ulio mbele yetu. Kwa muda mrefu, wananchi wengi wamekuwa wakikosa huduma katika ofisi nyingi kwa sababu ya ukosefu wa maadili na pia ufisadi. Kwa hivyo, sheria kama hii ni muhimu sana ili kuhakikisha kwamba wanaotafuta huduma kwa zile ofisi, wanapata huduma bora, pasipo ubaguzi kwa sababu hawajulikani au hawachukuliwi kama wahusika wakuu katika zile ofisi. Bw. Spika wa Muda, siku ya leo, ukienda ofisi nyingi, utapata wale wanaotafuta ajira au kazi ni lazima wawe na uhusiano fulani na mwenye yuko kwa hio ofisi. Kwa hivyo, ile sheria itakayotokea kutoka kwa huu Mswada itakua muhimu sana ili kuhakikisha ya kwamba maadili yanahifadhiwa na watu wanapewa heshima; na Wakenya pia, wanapata huduma kwa njia inayofaa. Asante."
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            "content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I also rise to support this Bill. Abuse of office, corruption, favouritism and nepotism have been some of the key breakers of this economy and this country. This Bill seeks to cure such leakages that have bled our country to where we are today. With this Bill, we will ensure that every Kenyan, as has been envisaged, has and stands the equal opportunity to access opportunities that are open to them. I support."
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            "content": "QUORUM"
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            "content": "On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I wish to bring to your attention the fact that we do not have sufficient quorum in this House to continue with business."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Wakili Sigei",
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            "content": " Serjeant-at-Arms, could you please ring the Quorum Bell for five minutes."
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            "content": "(The Quorum Bell was rung)"
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