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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, thank you for giving me this chance. Let me start by thanking the hon. Cabinet Secretary for her punctuality and well explanation of the questions raised by the Senator for Kirinyaga. Nyeri and Kirinyaga being bordering counties, we share the same challenges. My question would be - primary schools have been titled - whereas the land was donated by the same community, the churches have been left behind. Could the Cabinet Secretary tell us why the churches which are adjacent to the schools, that are sponsors of the schools have not been issued with the titles while the schools have been issued? Could she further explain to us why the colonial villages, which are widespread, especially in Nyeri County, have not been issued with the titles despite the directive from the previous and current regime?"
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"content": " Hon. Senators, you are entitled to only one supplementary question related to the original question asked by the Senator. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, kindly respond to that."
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"content": " Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I thank the Senator for"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Nyeri for that supplementary question. Although I do not know whether the colonial village is a supplementary question because it goes outside the parameter of the question raised by the Senator for Kirinyaga. In my view, churches are independent institutions. They do not fall under the national Government. Once land is allocated to you as a church, it is then the responsibility of the church to take up the processing of the title. You realise that it is quite a huge task and, therefore, a huge budget. We do not have a budget to do titles for churches. It is for the churches to take up. Where we need to facilitate them in our registries, we will do so in terms of documentation. On the colonial villages, I have asked for a report on my desk for all the colonial villages, especially in Nyandarua and Nyeri counties. I will be giving directions in terms of how to start the exercise of titling. There are more than 300 colonial villages in both counties. I can assure you I will work on those. I have taken it up already."
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"content": " Proceed, Sen. Maanzo."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Now that we are talking of land which has not been alienated or its status not known; could the Minister, whom we have a long history with, and is an outstanding lawyer, update us on the status of the land against Konza City. There are titles of Aimima Kilungu Farm which have been pending for quite a while."
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"content": " Hon. Senators, I gave guidelines that the supplementary questions should be in line with the original question. The Cabinet Secretary’s mind is on the titling of schools. If we ask other questions that might not get answers now, it is a big problem. Let us try as much as possible stick to the original question. Proceed, Hon. Cabinet Secretary."
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"content": " Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not possible for me to give Hon. Maanzo, the Senator for Makueni, an answer now on the question he has raised. However, we can liaise and give him an answer at either another sitting or preferably directly. He can contact me and we will give him the necessary response as an office."
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"content": " That is okay, Sen. Maanzo. You can get the Cabinet Secretary any time. Proceed, Sen. Chute."
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