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"content": "Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I take this opportunity to thank the Cabinet Secretary and her team, both the Permanent Secretary (PS) and the Cabinet Secretary for the passage of the Affordable Housing Bill, which I earlier said was a scam. I now withdraw that word to say it was a very well-done job."
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"content": "We had 42 amendments. Congratulations to this House also."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Let me go straight to page three. I would want the Cabinet Secretary to tell this House - No.25 is Marsabit County, out of 185 schools, only four schools have title deeds. Two others, you have indicated as reservations. Can the Cabinet Secretary tell us what reservation is and why out of 185 schools, only four have title deeds? Thank you very much."
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"content": " Proceed, Hon. Cabinet Secretary."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. To answer the Senator, Marsabit is one of the counties that adjudication has not been completed. In fact, the titling of schools will be part of the adjudication process. That is when we will be able to respond or give you a complete answer regarding the schools in Marsabit. This particular time, we will be more careful, so that even as we do the adjudication, we complete the titling for the schools. Thank you."
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"content": " Sen. Dullo, please proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I thank the Cabinet Secretary for a comprehensive response to the queries raised. Now, I want to comment on Isiolo, where we have 146 schools and there is only one with a title. You have explained what reservation is. I want to know whether the processing of the titles is done by the schools or it is the Government directly that initiates the process? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if you can allow me a rider to that. What is the Government doing about encroachment on most of the Government schools by private individuals?"
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"content": " Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Isiolo is undergoing community land titling. The majority of land in Isiolo will be under community land. It is one of the very difficult counties. The hon. Madam Senator is one of the leaders in that county. She would do us very well by bringing communities together. We are ready to do titling and we have funding for it. However, I can tell you there are many issues arising when we start doing community titling, including disagreement on names and boundaries. I assure her that we are working on community titling. As I had responded earlier to the hon. Senator for Marsabit, when we complete titling this time, we will also do the titling for the rest of the land. We will also complete the titling for the public schools. In terms of encroachment, may I take the opportunity, standing on this Floor of the Senate, with your permission, to say that any encroachment is illegal; it must be stopped both by the people occupying the land, the public and our law enforcement officers. Elected leaders have also a role to play. My office will not just be producing the title, but we normally go back with a surveyor to establish the beacons. Once they are established, including elaborate mapping and survey, then we are able to do titling. That is why you can see the process is a bit"
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