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"content": "slow, but also we need more funding for this activity. The directive for titling of schools was given by the Head of State in 2019."
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"content": " Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. Have your seat."
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"content": " Hon. Senators, you know our Standing Orders have allocated 20 minutes per question. The Cabinet Secretary has three questions. We also have another Cabinet Secretary for Energy who is also appearing this morning. So, I want to give maybe two more supplementary questions."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Allow me to congratulate the Cabinet Secretary. It has been long since we last met Madam Cabinet Secretary. I am truly impressed with the professional manner in which you go around discharging your duty as a Cabinet Secretary. It is something the Government really needs. Having said this, I recall Madam Cabinet Secretary when I was a Member of Parliament (MP) of Ikolomani Constituency, and I believe this applies to other MPs in office today, I opened seven new secondary schools and 16 new primary schools for which I bought land and built. The challenge we have had is that some of the plots that we acquired require succession. Since it is private land becoming public land, the people who received the money from us are not willing to come to court so as to assist us in the normal transfer. Is there a directive that the Ministry can give to help such a school, so that they can be assisted in titling?"
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"content": " To the Hon. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Kakamega Senator, I think that is not necessarily a dispute, but a succession process that has to go through the court. I think the best way is to possibly collect the necessary information, the schools' names that have those challenges in your county and then the owners of the land. If the cases are in court, we can have the details of the court cases by way of a letter and all necessary details pertaining to those school titling. I have a litigation counsel in my office. They will be able to liaise with the Attorney General (AG) and the Office of the Public Trustee. It will take a bit of time, but it is doable. Sometimes it just requires you to call the family that has either donated the land or that has sold the land and sit with them and then you find a solution. I am willing to take up that exercise if I am given the necessary information. We can liaise with you, hon. Senator."
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"content": "Sen. Kathuri) Thank you. The last one by Senator Kavindu. Hon. Senators, let me give further guidance. Since the Cabinet Secretary has two more Questions. To make progress, we can go to the next. Then I will request the Cabinet Secretary even if the question can come on the titling of the public school, still, she will be able to handle that. So, to make progress, let us get the last one from Sen. Agnes."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. First, I want to congratulate Madam Cabinet Secretary for the good work that she is doing. However, I have complaints about Machakos registrar's office for failure to issue title deeds. The process there is very slow. We only have that registrar in the Machakos sub-county. As far as Masinga, Yata and everywhere else in Machakos, citizens have to travel all the way to Machakos for their title deeds. Whenever they go there, they are told to go back the following day. They can go there and stay all day without being attended to. I went there during public participation on oversight. The complaint was that whenever they go to Machakos registrar's office, the register book is always missing. They are asked to pay Kshs10,000, but they are not issued with a receipt and asked to go for it later. They never see this money or get their title deeds. Madam Cabinet Secretary, can you kindly explain what is happening in the lands registrar office for issuing title deeds in Machakos? Are there plans to open land offices in those other sub-counties?"
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