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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Davis Chirchir",
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            "content": " Thank You, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, the answer is ‘yes.’ We are going to pay attention to the rice scheme in the county towards Busia. Food security is paramount. I think that is the very reason when the country was facing the Dollar liquidity challenge because of the"
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Davis Chirchir",
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            "content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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            "content": "tightened Monetary Policy FedEx running the United States of America (USA), interest investment in the USA at almost 5.5 per cent, we did not have Dollars. It is unfortunate that we have to use our Dollars to import food, things we can easily grow. I have just consulted with Kenya Power about the design for the scheme to support that rice scheme. It is more of upgrading to three-phase. The same question goes to the industrial park. The Chief Executive Officer (CEO) is here with me. We are going to follow up and make sure that because we are not building a new network, even if the harvest is now, we can support the people in that rice scheme within the season because upgrading is not a matter of months. It can be done in a few days. So, we will look at the funding aspect to be able to do that upgrade. The only challenge that we face is that sometimes we handle Kenya Power as a social company. We have 49.9 per cent investment listed in the stock market; the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE) and, therefore, when Kenya Power goes to the ground and gives an invoice or a bill for a transformer, if we can support them with payments, they should be able to connect immediately. However, in terms of extending the network to the area, that is our responsibility because it is commercial. They will get revenue by pulling the network to where the business is, so that they can sell more power. So,"
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            "content": "Mheshimiwa"
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            "content": ", Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, we will follow up on that. I am here with Dr. Siror, and possibly we will even give you an individual call to make sure that, that has been done. Sen. Cherarkey, really, this transformer challenge is a big challenge for us and we need a lot of support. During the days when there were no metres, schemes had not been built by REREC. There was no metre because of the challenge of the legal issues of meter procurements, which the country faces sometimes. Sometimes clients were connected irregularly to consume power without a meter. I am sure you are aware that sometimes you have tried to connect metres and our officers have not been allowed to go in to connect metres because if you can consume it free, why do you want to allow somebody to come and put in a metre? So, sometimes it forces us to disconnect the transformer, to encourage them to allow us to go in and address it because, otherwise, we close down Kenya Power if they have to pay the generators, and yet they have not collected the revenue. Therefore, that is one challenge we have had and it is more prevalent in some counties, but I do not want to name which ones. We even have situations where illegal networks have been built, and they pose risks. Sometimes, poles that you find have fallen out in a particular area, it is not a network of Kenya Power, and that is why you see us coming and cutting down a pole. You would ask yourself, is Kenya Power out of their mind to be pulling down a pole? Some of those poles are not ours and it presents a security challenge to the people, when people have gone out of their way to put in a small network connected to a transformer that is being overloaded. It is an irregular network; it is an illegitimate legal network and, therefore, overloaded transformers cause a problem for legitimate customers who are properly connected. Therefore, we appeal for the political leadership to work with us in supporting Kenya Power to also get revenue, so that we can extend the network to some of the areas like the rice field that Sen. (Dr.) Oburu has talked to."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Davis Chirchir",
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            "content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Davis Chirchir",
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            "content": "However, we will follow it up. We have heard Kapcherop, Kapwareng, and Keurig. We will follow up and pay attention to those areas you mentioned, and if there are others that you want us to follow up on, we will be happy to do that. Concerning Mheshimiwa Sen. Kinyua, we have a dashboard, but you can imagine it was in the Cabinet Secretary's office; the dashboard for Kenya Power, the dashboard for KenGen, and others. We have serious dashboards and I would like to encourage hon. Wamatangi to invite some of the hon. Members to come to our National Control Center. We have a dashboard and see the whole country in one room. So, we follow up on what is happening all the time, and when we see a bit of an overload, we can pull down to ensure that the network does not go down because of an overload; managing that reactive situation where there is an overload. Then why do we have transformers that are connected to one person? The point is, yes, we have a transformer for 25kVA or 50kVA, and when customers apply for power, we do provide depending on the funding scheme a transformer, not necessarily which would serve one person, but a transformer that can serve that local community and do maximisation. We currently are doing a very heavy maximisation programme with some funding from the European Investment Bank (EIB), the European Union (EU), and the Africa Development Bank (AFD) and we have another AFD 3. The first one is Kshs22 billion. We have another Kshs15billion of AFD 3, which is currently being rolled out and a lot of them are on maximization. So, where you see one, two or 10 persons being connected, then that transformer can service 70, 80 or 100 persons. We have done surveys and some of the plants have been finished. We are working very closely with the Members of Parliament (MP) to maximize a lot of this money that I have just spoken to, which is going to maximization. Therefore, there will be more utilization of that asset that currently is not working because it is having a few people, when it should be serving a larger number or maximized to that extent. The last mile is becoming easier in the highly populated areas because we are just doing maximization. Of course, the last mile is more difficult, especially where we have reached today, such as the areas where the landmass is huge, like Wajir, Isiolo and Marsabit Counties. However, we are committed on the last mile and maximization. In fact, Sen. Kinyua should come to my office for a cup of tea and we can look at how Laikipia County is coming up. I thank you so much."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Abdul Haji",
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            "content": " Thank you. Waziri, I think we can squeeze two more questions, one from Sen. Mariam Omar and--- I wanted to give the ladies a chance. Sen. Orwoba, I thought you had requested? We shall give her also. Let us be fair to the ladies and proceed to ask the questions very quickly."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Mariam Omar",
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            "content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity in kind. I do not know if this question was asked by my colleague from northern Kenya, but I want to hear from the Cabinet Secretary. During the El Nino rains, the road which connects to Mandera County was washed away. Since then, Mandera"
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Mariam Omar",
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            "content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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