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"content": " Order, Sen. Sifuna. Sen. Sifuna, you know we cannot have two Speakers at the same time. No, you cannot direct your questions to the Cabinet Secretary. Nobody is special in this House. You should just abide by the laws of the debate and the Standing Orders, with a lot of respect."
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"content": "On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir."
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"content": " Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you can proceed to respond to the three questions. Time is not on our side."
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"content": " Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, and Hon. Members. I would like to respond to the question asked by Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, regarding the NHIF card. Indeed, it is true that the current NHIF card limits members and requires them to choose specific facilities where they will be attended to. That is one of the flaws that we took into consideration in coming up with the Social Health Authority Act. Under the Social Health Authority Act, this is no longer a requirement. A member is not required to choose a facility. Further, we have gone ahead to do digitization of health services and health facilities. We are ensuring that all health facilities are integrated and this allows for the portability of patient data for ease of referral; that should a Kenyan wish to seek services from any health facility within the borders of the country, then they will find their data available in that health facility where they wish to be attended. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Furthermore, we have put facilities into a primary care network. This is to ensure that then services and proper referral of services are done. That a Kenyan can move from one level of service to the other one without limitation. On the issue of Edu-Afia, I want to confirm that under the current Social Health Act, the Ministry has provided a base cover. This base cover is comprehensive with a benefit package that covers everyone. We all have to agree that Edu-Afia was specific to students. These students come from families; they have parents, guardians and so on. Under the Edu-Afia, all these people are being covered. It did not make sense to have one small cover just covering the student. We needed to have the parents and the guardian covered. That is why under the Social Health Authority Act, the cover is for the whole family. It does not discriminate and say, this is for a student, this is for Linda Mama . No, the cover is for Mama, student,"
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"content": "and for the whole jamii. On the third question, which Hon. Sen. Sifuna has asked regarding the payment for Nairobi County, I would like to confirm that, as a Ministry, it concerns us about all health facilities. Public facilities, faith-based facilities, and private facilities, all have to be paid for by NHIF. I confirm that NHIF has a process of payment that does not exclude other facilities, depending on where it belongs. It is a process that first requires that the claim is verified. Whether the claim is from a public facility, a private facility or faith-based, it has to be verified. Once verified and reconciled, then it goes to payment. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I also confirm that as I had indicated earlier, we have had a delay of Exchequer that has given rise to the many huge bills that are being experienced across the country. I have gone ahead to confirm that, indeed, we have received confirmation from the National Treasury that resources are going to be released this week for pay, for payment of claims. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I submit."
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"content": " Sen. Faki, you have the Floor."
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"content": "Asante, Bw. Naibu wa Spika. Langu ni kumuuliza Bi. Waziri kwamba kuna malimbikizi ya malipo kwa zahanati na vituo vya afya ambayo yameendelea kwa muda mrefu. Na majibu yake hayajaridhisha kwa sababu hajasema pesa zinazodaiwa ni ngapi na zitalipwa vipi. Tumeona, wakati NHIF ilipokuwa inafanya kazi, malipo yalikuwa hayaendi na sasa tunatoka katika NHIF na kuenda kwa shirika jipya. Tunataka ueleze Seneti hii kwanza madeni ni pesa ngapi. Pili, una mipango gani ya kulipa madeni hayo? Unaposema ya kwamba yatalipwa hayo ni mambo ya Alfulelaulela."
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"content": " Sen. Orwoba, proceed."
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