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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, I have a simple question for you. Due to the importance and complex nature of this sector, do you think it is time this country starts a conversation of transferring the human resources of health from the county government and create a Health Service Commission (HSC), so that we can have order in this sector? I thank you."
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"content": " Proceed, Sen. Ogola"
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, what is the fate of the Universal Health Coverage (UHC) staff whose contracts ended, taking into consideration that, as a nation, we are looking at achieving universal health coverage? Concerning the strike, I would like to inform you that negotiations need goodwill from both parties. Even the language we use while negotiating is very important. I realised the Cabinet Secretary at some point was giving a statement that was running away from the whole challenge. You stated that a certain number belonged to the national Government. It was like stating that somebody else should be solving it. However, the buck stops with you and the Head of State. I do not understand why, as a nation, it is so easy to give foreigners or other people good remuneration packages. I remember that sometime back, we engaged the Cuban doctors and a lot was given to them. Why is it difficult to attend to the doctors' The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "needs when we could give the Cuban doctors a lot of leeway? You also said that they have not come to us---"
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"content": " Thank you, Senator. You can only ask one Question. Sen. Ogola, you have asked two questions."
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"content": " Thank you, Senator. Proceed, Sen. Gataya Mo Fire."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. My question is about Marimanti Level 4 Hospital in Tharaka-Nithi County. This is the only facility in the entire eastern part of the county that serves several catchments, including parts of Ukambani. The hospital lacks some very essential machines, including the CT Scan, renal unit equipment and mammograms. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, what is the Ministry doing to make sure that this facility is equipped, so that we can give the required services to the people considering this is the only facility? Currently, we are about to graduate it to a Level 5 hospital and several nurses are taking rotational courses there."
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"content": " Thank you, Senator. Cabinet Secretary, kindly respond."
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"content": " Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir and Members. On the question raised by Sen. Mbugua on the creation of a Health Service Commission (HSC), I take note that this House is the defender of devolution. It is the House that is supposed to ringfence and take care of devolved functions. Having a HSC would be ideal, but it would be outside the mandate of the Ministry of Health. It would be a constitutional question. Since the conversation is ongoing and if everyone believes that is the direction to be taken, then as a Ministry we are happy that the process of having a HSC, through a constitutional process, is started so that it can be achieved. On the issues raised by Sen. Ogola, I do understand her concern regarding the language of discussion. I take responsibility if I have sounded like I am not using the right language. At times, it becomes difficult when you want to give the real numbers. For example, when we speak of clinical officers, of the 14,000 in service, 158 belong to the national Government. That is under my ambit. That is to say that the conversation then needs to go beyond the Ministry of Health to the governors, so that they take care of the remainder balance of the clinical officers. Regarding the Cuban doctors, I confirm that when we came into office, we looked at the contract there and it was not competitive or sustainable for the Government to continue with the programme. We terminated the programme of Cuban doctors and they went back to Cuba."
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