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"speaker_name": "Kilifi North, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Owen Baya",
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"content": "of this nation. I urge Members that this is the opportunity we must stand up to defend the poor people who cannot afford to go to court to claim their land. This is the opportunity for those who have long been oppressed to get a solution to their problem. This is the opportunity for us, as Members of Parliament, to stand with the spirit of the Constitution and be counted as people who stood up when everyone else did not want poor people to be represented. I beg Members who sit in this Chamber to consider those people who have suffered historically, those who have never seen a title deed from 1963, those whose title deeds have been quashed by other bodies, and those whose lands have been grabbed by people who only know how to grab land. Even the Mau fought for freedom, but when they came back, the land that they owned had been taken away by those people who sided with the British. This is the moment. This is the opportunity. I urge this House to stand with the poor of this country and give them an opportunity to be heard using NLC. It is the only last frontier for the poor people of this country. I request the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Lands to second this Bill. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Martha Wangari",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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"legal_name": "Martha Wangari",
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"content": " Hon. Joash Nyamoko."
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"speaker_name": "North Mugirango, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Joash Nyamoko",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to second this Bill. Let me thank the Member for Kilifi North for the passionate way he has moved this Bill. I can confirm that we had an opportunity to sit with the Member. We had discussions and robust engagements. We realised that these amendments will go a long way in ensuring that we resuscitate the activities of NLC. The objective of this Bill is to amend Section 14 of the NLC Act to restore the power of the Commission to review the status of public land for propriety and legality. In addition, the Bill seeks to amend Section 15 of the Act to enable the Commission to continue admitting and processing historical land injustice claims, which lapsed on 21st September 2021. The power of the Commission to review grants and process historical land injustices expired, leading to a gap in its mandate. As a result, many historical land injustices and claims remain unsolved due to time limits necessitating the restoration of the Commission's authority in this regard. At the moment, the National Land Commission is unable to process some of the cases that have been reported to it simply because of time limits. What is being proposed here is a continuation and sustainability of those very emotive aspects of injustices. The Bill underwent its First Reading on Wednesday, 27th September 2023, and it was subjected to public participation in accordance with the constitutional requirements and our Standing Orders. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"speaker_name": "North Mugirango, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Joash Nyamoko",
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"content": "The Departmental Committee on Lands engaged the sponsor of the Bill as highlighted and solicited comments from various stakeholders through an advertisement, which was done on 2nd October 2023. We received a number of memoranda from various stakeholders, including the National Land Commission, the Institution of Surveyors of Kenya, the Kenya Land Alliance, and the State Department of Lands and Physical Planning. I want to thank the Members of the Committee for their dedication and diligence in examining the Bill. I also thank the Office of the Speaker and the clerks who have served the Committee for their leadership and guidance throughout the legislative process. I also thank all those who were involved in the processing this Bill. I end by saying that these are very crucial exercises – the two amendments that are going to be done. They will give life to the National Land Commission. We have many cases that have been reported to the National Assembly. Some go to the Public Petitions Committee, and others to the National Land Commission. By effecting these amendments, I am very sure this will be a reprieve for the citizens of this country. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. With that, I second."
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"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Hon. Martha Wangari",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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"legal_name": "Martha Wangari",
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"content": " Thank you."
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"speaker": null,
"content": "(Question proposed)"
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"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Hon. Martha Wangari",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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"legal_name": "Martha Wangari",
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"content": "I will give this chance to Hon. Mishi. If not in the House, Hon. Zamzam."
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"speaker_name": "Mombasa County, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Zamzam Mohammed",
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"content": " Ahsante sana, Mhe. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa wakati huu nitoe mchango wangu kuhusu National Land Commission (NLC). Nampongeza ndugu yangu, Mhe. Owen Baya, kwa kuangalia historia hasa katika Ukanda wa Pwani. Hii Tume ya kuangalia mambo ya mashamba imekuwa ikisaidia sana kwa kutoa uwazi wa mambo yalivyo kule chini. Watu wetu wanateseka sana. Kwa mfano, baada ya Tume hii kuangazia dhuluma za kihistoria za mashamba, kuna watu mpaka sasa wanahangaishwa. Ni dhahiri shahiri kuwa Tume hii ilichaguliwa na kutengwa ili isaidie historia ya dhulma za mashamba na mambo kama hayo ili mnyonge aweze kupata haki yake. Sasa hivi tunavyozungumza, hata sisi pia tumeleta malalamishi ambayo yametoka katika kaunti zetu. Ukanda wa Pwani umekuwa ndio chanzo kikubwa cha kupata dhuluma za kihistoria za mashamba. Watu wetu wamekaa kama maskwota, na ukiangalia katika mashamba yale, kuna watu wamekaa zaidi ya miaka 200. Lakini, ile dhuluma wanafanyiwa, hasa ukiangalia wakazi wa pale Majengo, Mwembe Kuku, Bondeni na Kisiwani, bado wanalalamika na mpaka sasa hawajapata haki yao. Hii Tume ikiwekewa muda rasmi, itakuwa haina mwanya wa kujieleza zaidi. Hawa watu wamekaa zaidi ya miaka 200 kwenye shamba. Ukiangalia mpaka sasa, wanaambiwa watafurushwa kwenye mashamba yao. Mtu anajitokeza tu. Yeye amepotea na amekaa nje miaka yote. Lakini, anakuja kunadi na kuwapatia wale wazee wasiwasi, akiwaambia atawavunjia nyumba zao waondoke, wakati wamekuwa wakilipa kodi kwa zaidi ya miaka 50. Sheria iko wazi kuwa Wakenya wapewe ithibati ama hati miliki za mashamba ndio wakae kwa amani. Lakini, unapata kuna watu wanawanyanyasa, ndio maana Tume hii iliwekwa ili kuangalia maswala hayo. Naunga mjadala huu mkono ili Tume hii ikae na iwekwe wazi bila vizingiti vya miaka mitano, ndio tupate kutatua shida ambazo Wakenya wanapata. Napatia hii Tume ya Mashamba changamoto wafanye kesi nyingi, kwa sababu wamesikia mambo mengi ya mashamba na vilio vya watu wengi. Mpaka sasa, wamefanya kitu gani kuhakikisha kuwa watu wetu wanapata haki zao? Hii Tume ni nzuri sana, lakini naomba iweze kutatua matatizo yaliyoko ili Wakenya wapate haki zao. Kama tunavyoona wazee wetu, Council of Elders au Baraza la Wazee kule Mombasa wamelia sana. Mzee Sumba amelilia mashamba mpaka amezeeka, umri umekwenda, The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"speaker_name": "Mombasa County, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Zamzam Mohammed",
"speaker": null,
"content": "lakini anatoa machozi kwa sababu wanavunjiwa manyumba katika mashamba wakati Serikali imenyamza. Namwambia ndugu yangu, Owen Baya, kwamba sote tumetoka Pwani, na tunajua matatizo ya watu wetu. Ndugu yangu uko katika mrengo wa Serikali, na naomba uingilie kati. Tunaitetea Tume ya Kitaifa ya Mashamba waweze kujibidiisha na kupigania haki za wanyonge, ili hao ndugu zetu waweze kupata title deeds na kukaa kwa amani. Wakati mwingine nikikaa huwa nalia machozi nikiona vile watu wangu wanavyodhalilishwa. Makaburi ya wazee mahali ambapo wamelala, wanahangaishwa. Mtu anatoka kule Oman na anakusanya rent ndani ya Mombasa ilhali, nchi yake ni nyingine. Naiomba Tume ya Kitaifa ya Mashamba waangazie Serikali na kuiambia hawa ni Wakenya wazaliwa, hata kama ni wanyonge na hawana pesa za kwenda mahakamani kujitetea. Lakini, Serikali itoke kuwatetea wanyonge, ambao ni Wakenya, wapate haki yao. Naunga mkono mjadala wa leo nikisema kuwa Tume ya Kitaifa ya Mashamba iwachwe ifanye kazi bila kuwekewa vizingiti vya wakati. Lakini, ijibidiishe kutoa matukio ambayo wamepata. Pia, watupatie udhabiti kuwa walisikiliza vilio vya watu fulani, wametatua na wakapata hati miliki za mashamba. Pengine mtu alipokonywa shamba lake, aweze kuregeshewa hilo shamba. Wasiwe wanakaa tu Nairobi na kuwaambia watu waje na wakija wanalala kwa mahoteli. Hatuwezi kukubali, kwa sababu hawana pesa, na kisha wanabaki hivyo hivyo. Wawajibike kama Tume ya Kitaifa ya Mashamba, kuhakikisha kuwa wanapatia watu wetu haki zao; na waonyeshe matokeo ya kazi waliyopewa, japokuwa wanalipwa na Mkenya yule wa chini. Naunga mkono nikisema Tume ya Kitaifa ya Mashamba isitolewe, isisitishwe, wala isiwekewe mipaka. Iwachwe huru. Miaka nenda miaka rudi, tuwe nayo, iwe inasaidia Wizara ya Ardhi kufanya kazi. Pale Ardhi House kuna uozo mkubwa sana. Leo tukisema tunawaachia wao ndio wachukue kila kitu wafanye, mtu ambaye amekaa ndani ya nyumba yake miaka 50 ama 100, ataskia mtu amekuja na hati miliki, akisema pale ni kwake. Uozo huu uko pale Ardhi"
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