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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. The issue of the health crisis and the strike in the country is of great concern. While we mourn more than the bereaved, my concern is that when you look at the Fourth Schedule, health is devolved. We cannot speak from both sides of our mouth. The Constitution is very clear. For example, the work of Parliament is to set standard health policies. Sen. Maanzo understands this because we had a push and pull up to the Supreme Court. Where is the voice of the Council of Governors (CoG)? When we ask governors the issue of the wage bill in counties, a huge chunk goes to the health function. The national Government has been doing charity to try and bring sanity as the bigger brother in all dimensions. I did not hear both the Mover and---"
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"content": " Sen. Cherarkey, do you wish to be informed by the Mover of the Motion?"
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"content": "No, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, because of my time. From her tone and demeanour today, I do not think that is correct information. I did not hear about the devolved function and the role of the CoG. Counties are in a mess. For example, in Kapsabet County Referral Hospital, rats eat lunch with patients. There are no drugs in some of the hospitals. I would have expected Sen. Mumma, whom I have tremendous respect for, to point out the role or non- activeness of the CoG. Even in Meru, the health sector is on its knees. When you go to Isiolo, the mortuary fridge is not functional, and you smell the odour. I would have expected the The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Senator for Nairobi to highlight the malfunctioning of the health sector in Nairobi City County. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are just playing to the public gallery. We are doing a popularity contest by saying that doctors are being frustrated by the national Government, just to be politically right. I agree on the issue of interns, but how many Kenyans are paid Kshs70,000? Even P1 teachers are not paid that or the ECDE teachers whom we are pushing for a standard scheme of service. In my county, they are paid a salary of between Kshs5,000 to 10,000. Now, we are talking about Kshs70,000 to pay an intern. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to repeat what I said yesterday. I went for pupillage at my master, Serah Karuga, but I was never paid even a single penny. You heard the Cabinet Secretary say that it is stipend or pocket money. Even the SRC guidelines and formulations do not recognize stipend. The doctors want to have their cake and eat it. You are not yet qualified and admitted being a doctor, yet you want to enjoy the benefits of being a full-practicing doctor, which is unfair. It is like what used to happen in campus where you would transform your girlfriend to a wife by cohabitation without giving dowry. I know there is a process to it in some cultures. In the interest of time, I conclude by requesting doctors and nurses to come to the negotiating table. We can scale stairs as we review the terms, sit down with the Government and renegotiate the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA). I saw people like Secretary General (SG) Davji Atellah and Wachira who can negotiate as their leaders as doctors and nurses go back to work and alleviate suffering by Kenyans. They should live by the Hippocratic Oath that says they will always choose life over money. Kenyan doctors are choosing money over lives, yet they swore as by the Hippocratic oath. I want to tell them because in their oath, like us, they say we will protect lives against material things. Why is it that when it comes to money--- I have tremendous respect, most of the unions leaders are my friends and we have had a discussion on this. I agree they have valid and genuine concerns. However, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you are a son of a clergy, the Bible says come ye, let us talk. That is why there is a reggae song by the riverside that says ‘let us examine, as I walk by the River Babylon.’ I want to appeal to doctors, get---"
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"content": " Sen. Cherarkey, when giving examples, avoid pointing at the Chair. You keep pointing at me in your examples about some people you mention."
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