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"content": " If you have fake papers, are you fake as a human being?"
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"content": "No, No! Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, that one, I withdraw. I mean the fake degrees. Fake degrees mean that---"
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"content": " Thank you. Next is Sen. Hamida Kibwana. Please, proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I fully support Sen. Mumma on this issue. Today, having the Cabinet Secretary here, it was sad when I asked about the number of deaths, of which she never gave the data. It seems arrogant that the Government does not give a damn how many deaths we have had ever since the strike occurred. I am sure if we decide to take data, we will get more dead bodies during the strike than ever before. It is unfortunate. Healthcare is devolved to county governments. However, I think Senators, as Members of the national Government, can still have a significant role to play in this one. First, we can advocate for increased funding for health. We can do that as the Senate and ensure counties have adequate resources to manage healthcare support and pay competitive salaries to the doctors. I am looking at it on how we can come as mediators. We can use our oversight role to hold the national Government responsible for its healthcare and delivery. We can also ensure that health policies are adequately supported to county health services. Seriously, I do not see how we cannot serve as mediators during this strike. It has gone on for so long. Again, I said, as Senators, I am sure we can play that oversight role and become mediators on this one between the county governments and healthcare workers union, to help resolve the disputes. We can also advocate for the interests of healthcare workers or the public to ensure that there is a discussion on the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) and the rest. The Cabinet Secretary tried to explain how the CBA was resolved"
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"content": "We could have a very good CBA, but there is no implementation. The issue here is implementation of the CBA by the Government. We can also enact legislation that can set minimum standards for healthcare workers conditions and regulate medical training. It is sad that I went to visit a patient yesterday; a young man who had an accident with a boda boda and he broke his jaw. He has been at St. Mary’s Hospital for three days. He is unable to eat or talk because his jaws are locked. The area has become septic and there is no other Government hospital that he can be taken to. Madam Temporary Speaker, what we are going through in Kenya is painful and hurtful. Like I said, it is a matter of life and death. Can we come in, as Senators, and see how we can resolve these issues and become mediators. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "I thank you."
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"content": " Thank you, Senator. Proceed Sen. Chute."
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Let me take this opportunity to contribute to this very important Motion. As it has been said by almost all the Senators, this is a devolved function. Ninety percent of the doctors work in the counties. Article 26(1) of the Constitution states that every person has a fundamental right to life. I will refer you again to Article 43(1) (a), which states that every person has the right to the highest standard of health. Similarly, Article 43 (2) (a) states that a person shall not be denied emergency medical treatment. Madam Temporary Speaker, I want to take this opportunity to blame both parties because Article 26 (1) and Article 43 (1) (a) have been contravened by both the Executive and the medical doctors. When we had the CBA in 2013 a Kenyan doctor was earning about US$300, in Uganda they were earning US$631 and in Rwanda, US$474. It is only South Africa and Namibia where they earned US$3400 and US$3100 respectively. During that CBA period, the Cabinet Secretary then, Cleopa Mailu, said and I quote- “The dark side of our history is over because of that CBA’’. Similarly, let me quote what Mr. Henry Rotich said- “The Government cannot afford to pay that salary”. Madam Temporary Speaker, to train a student doctor to specialize on a particular specialty will take about 10 years. My son has just graduated to be a doctor this year."
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