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"content": "We will now move to Questions. Today we have the Cabinet Secretary for Health, Ms. Susan Nakhumicha."
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"content": "Order, Hon. Members. Those conducting unlawful Kamukunjis, take your seats. Those Hon. Members who want to leave the Chamber for whatever reason, do so quietly. We are now going into Question Time. Those who have a habit of constituting mini- kamukunjis, please desist. We want to conduct business peacefully. The Cabinet Secretary for Health, Ms. Susan Nakhumicha, and your team, welcome to Parliament. We will start with Question No.009 of 2024. Member for Westlands, Hon. Timothy Wanyonyi."
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"content": "DELAYS IN POSTING OF MEDICAL INTERNS AND IMPLEMENTATION OF 2017 CBA BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT AND KMPDU"
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Health the following Questions: Could the Cabinet Secretary — (a) Explain why the Ministry is yet to post medical interns who ought to have been posted in September 2023, noting that such delay denies the affected graduates the opportunity to put into practice the theoretical skills gained. (b) Provide timelines to which the Collective Bargaining Agreement signed in 2017 between the Kenya Medical Practitioners, Pharmacists and Dentists Union and the Government will be fully implemented. (c) Outline the steps being taken to resolve the recent dispute and end the strike to ensure un-interrupted healthcare delivery. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "The Cabinet Secretary, proceed."
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"speaker_name": "Ms. Susan Nakhumicha",
"speaker_title": "The Cabinet Secretary, Ministry of Health",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Hon. Members, it is always a pleasure to appear before this House to speak to the people's representatives and to explain what the Ministry is doing. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"speaker_name": "Ms. Susan Nakhumicha",
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"content": "On the Question raised by Hon. Tim Wanyonyi, as of February 2024, the Ministry had 3,759 interns for posting under different cadres as indicated. 1. Medical Officer Interns 849 2. Dentist Interns 72 3. Pharmacist Interns 289 4. Nursing (Degree) Interns 1,134 5. Clinical (Degree) Interns 145 6. Clinical (Diploma) Interns 1,270 Of these that I have mentioned, 1,270 clinical officers (Diploma) interns were posted and have already reported to their placement centres. Another 1,210 medical officers, dental officers and pharmacists have been posted and their letters of posting were sent to their emails and they ought to have reported by 15th April 2024. The Ministry has started taking stock from the internship centres to determine how many have so far reported. The Ministry is now in the process of finalising the process for posting the 2,404 nursing and clinical (degree) interns who will start collecting their letters which have been equally posted to their emails. They also ought to report starting the 15th of April, which has already passed. However, Hon. Members, I would like to note that there was a delay in the posting of interns due to lack of budgetary allocations. In the FY 2023/2024, the Ministry was allocated Ksh3,688,166,173 to cater for the internship programme against a requirement of Ksh5,738,217,551 resulting in a gap of Ksh2,050,051,378. This gap was considered during Supplementary Estimate No.1 and was able to cater only for the 4,156 interns who were posted in July 2023."
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"speaker_name": "Ms. Susan Nakhumicha",
"speaker_title": "The Cabinet Secretary, Ministry of Health",
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"content": "The Ministry appealed to the National Treasury to provide funding of Ksh4,873,708,800 to cater for the placement of 3,759 interns through a letter dated 1st February 2024. The National Treasury replied through a letter dated 13th February 2024 indicating that they were not in a position to provide the requested funds and advised the Ministry to rationalise the numbers of interns and review the internship policy with a view to accommodate more interns within the available budgetary provisions. Following the guidance from the National Treasury, the Ministry wrote to the Salaries and Remuneration Commission (SRC) for guidance on how to rationalise that. The SRC responded by providing stipend rates to be payable to the interns. With the rates from the SRC, the Ministry wrote to the National Treasury and secured Ksh2,317,200,000 to post 3,759 interns. It is on this rate that the interns I have indicated above have been posted. The second part of the Question asks the Ministry to provide timelines within which the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) was signed in 2017 between the Kenya Medical Practitioners, Pharmacists and Dentists Union (KMPDU) and the Government will be fully implemented. The CBA signed with KMPDU in 2017 continues to be implemented by the national Government. The national Government has so far undertaken the following to fulfill its obligations under the CBA: 1. Facilitated the payment of basic salary arrears accrued by national Government entities arising from the 2017-2021 CBA. I would like to confirm that the national Government has paid in excess and some doctors owe the national Government some money. 2. Provided grants and scholarships for eligible post-graduate medical officers based on an immediate service-need basis. 3. Provided comprehensive medical insurance to doctors at the national Government level. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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