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"content": "As I said, if we are to be seen to be serious - and we must be seen to be serious - then we should not just debate this Motion and go home. We must come up with a resolution on how to deal with this kind of shame. That is the route that county governors think they are clever to use all the time through supplementary budgets to tinker with budgets and do things not captured by the public. On this Floor of the Senate, I would like to challenge the hon. Members of County Assemblies (MCAs) across this country in the 47 counties. Since this is a matter of primary oversight, they should ensure that every supplementary budget is taken through the entire process of budget making and that there is public participation in any supplementary budget. This way, we shall minimise the shoddy deals cut through the supplementary budgets. As is the counties and the national Government, we have obligations to banks and financial institutions. When financial instruments fall due, everything else stops. We have obligations to international banks and financial institutions. Why is it that when we have loans we pay to institutions outside this country, we are willing to starve ourselves to pay those bills? Nonetheless, when it comes to our own local contractors and suppliers, we are willing to tell them to wait for five, six, or 10 years. We are killing businesses, enterprises and our people. As a House mandated by the law and the Constitution to defend devolution and protect the interest of counties and county governments, pending bills is a matter we cannot debate. We need a strong resolution that will follow up and through to ensure this House's resolution on pending bills is implemented. With those submissions, I rest my case."
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"content": " Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am truly impressed by the industry of the Senator for Narok. If this House could approve the recommendations he has proposed in this Motion, it would be a profound statement on how to solve the problem of pending bills. Taking over from where the Senator for Kitui County has left, how can we say that this House protects counties and county governments when we have allowed Nairobi City County to owe people who have delivered goods and services a whooping Kshs107 billion? We are failing. When the governor is invited to appear before the House, he shows us the middle finger. I have chaired one such meeting where we were forced to fine him Kshs500,000. In another meeting chaired by the Senator for Kiambu, a similar punishment was dished out to him. This will require that we take the initiative of the Senator for Narok further so that we achieve what America did after the First World War. After the First World War, America improved its infrastructure by encouraging local entrepreneurs. They blocked companies from Europe from coming to do business in the United States of America. The money that was used, borrowed, or otherwise by local entrepreneurs opened up the economy of America. To date, America is the biggest economy in the world. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "If we will read from this, then we should push counties to pay entrepreneurs. This will open up the economies of all 47 counties, especially if we add a rider that says contracts must be given to local people in a county unless the expertise for doing a particular project does not exist within that county. It reminds me that the day before yesterday, on Monday, 22nd April 2024, in Kakamega, thanks to the responsibility this House gave me, I carried out an oversight function at the Kakamega Golf Hotel. I invited all creditors to the County Government of Kakamega to whom pending bills are due to come so that we could workshop together. We invited the county assembly and the county executive, but they did not come. The documents we were using in that meeting were submitted by the Governor of Kakamega to the Finance and Budget Committee. We wanted the creditors to verify and validate those lists. The governor saw no sense in coming. Instead, he went and pedalled influence at the police station. The police had the audacity to come and storm the hotel to disperse us. It was a low moment for this House. I have decided to keep the course and allow the people of Kakamega to make their own decisions. One of the companies presented documents at that great meeting. The old man in his 80s, is one of the most successful people in Kakamega and is owed Kshs250 million. This does not bother the governor. The recommendation in this Motion is that the Senator of Narok is attempting to say that the particular amount of money owed should be cleared within this financial year. He is starting a conversation. I would like to challenge myself, the Finance and Budget Committee and the entire House to carry this conversation further so that we help all the counties of Kenya. In Nairobi City County, it would mean that if people were to wait for all the Kshs20 billion we give the county to be given to them, some companies would be paid five years later. We are failing. I had a sitting with the Controller of Budget (CoB) in her office over this. She requested us to help them. The tragedy of this problem is that if you go to the countryside, many projects have stalled because contractors cannot continue. In Kakamega County, for example, our first governor started the Bukhungu Stadium, but it has stalled because of pending bills. The construction of the teaching and referral hospital has stalled because of pending bills. Khayega, Shinyalu, and Ikolomani markets have stalled because of pending bills. The Khayega, Shinyalu and Chepsonoi road has stalled due to pending bills. When we raise these issues, governors are quick to run and say that we want their seats. Who told governors that they have seats? Those seats belong to the people of those respective counties and they have the choice to renew their contract or throw them out so that, more competent people can take over after a cycle of five years. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I hear you. Amen. If we are not firm as Parliament, we will either throw our country into instability like what is happening in West Africa. The outdated way of change of Government is now back in Africa. We are now seeing coup d 'etats"
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"content": "The militaries are waiting to see the institution of Parliament ensure that the Constitutions are working and when they give up, they use unconstitutional means. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "With due respect to myself and the Government that I love and serve, how can we be a country where we see nothing wrong with doctors carrying twigs and leaves in the streets when they are supposed to be in hospitals treating people? How can we be a country where business people make formal presentations that they were forced to deliver fertilizer in a conduit that has resulted in Kenyans being sold fake fertilizer? How can we see nothing wrong with it? We are happy that the Cabinet Secretary for Agriculture, Livestock Development is today sitting pretty in office when he is responsible for the mess of the sale of counterfeit fertilizer. If the Lord Almighty can speak to the Hon. Cabinet Secretary Linturi, then he should resign at the end of my speech. He is not fit to be a Cabinet Secretary for Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries. How would you sell fake fertilizer to the same people who voted for you?"
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"content": "(Applause)"
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"content": "Even if we want to get rich quickly, then let us work a little bit harder. You cannot get rich simply by mixing donkey stool---"
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"content": "Shame on him! Shame on him!"
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