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"content": "Division will be at the end. Sen. Wamatinga, proceed to move the amendment on behalf of the Chairperson of the Committee."
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"content": "Mr. Chairman, Sir, I beg to Move- THAT Clause 19 of the Bill be amended by- (a) deleting subclause (1) and substituting therefore the following new subclause - (1) A miller shall not purchase sugar crop from, or accept, sugar crop delivered by a grower and a grower shall not sell or deliver sugar crop to a miller, unless the- (a) grower is registered with, and has in force a valid supply agreement with the miller; (b) factory of the miller is situated within the grower’s sugarcane zone; or (c) grower is exempted from the requirement by the Board under section 19A; (b) deleting the heading appearing immediately after the subclause (3)."
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"content": "(Question of the amendment proposed)"
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"content": " Sen. Cherarkey, you have the Floor."
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"content": "Mr. Chairman, Sir, I agree with the intent of the amendment to Clause 19. Some millers develop cane and have an agreement with the farmer. Therefore, The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "this amendment will ensure there is no cane poaching or hawking. It will ensure that the development is duly done. There should be supplier-valid agreement to protect the growth of the miller. Most of the farmers have taken loans from millers and there will be protection by the valid supplier agreement. On the issue of delivering within the sugar zone area, this amendment will ensure there is discipline. Every game has its rules. I come from Nandi and we have no millers in entire county. When you go to Nandi South, the nearest miller is Kibos, Muhoroni and the rest are 18 kilometres away. This amendment will ensure that it is easier for farmers within Nandi South to deliver to factories in Kisumu. Nandi North does not have a miller and it is nearer upper western, that is Kakamega County where Naitiri Sugar Company and Butali Sugar Company are. Farmers will not need to travel more than 200 kilometres to deliver their cane. If we are growing sugarcane in clusters as Hon. Oparanya's report indicated, we will have the central zone of Nandi South, Kisumu, and Kericho. On this other part, we have Nandi North, Kakamega, Bungoma, and Trans Nzoia because of the proximity of those factories. This amendment is in good faith and will ensure cane development, while protecting the interest of the farmer and the miller."
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"content": " Hon. Senators, make a brief comment on this amendment. This Bill was well conversed during the Second Reading. Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, proceed."
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"content": "Mr. Chairman, Sir, I totally oppose this amendment because of the factories which are around that take sugarcane from farmers. Sugar is not a warehousable item."
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"content": "Mr. Chairman, Sir, when they take sugarcane from farmers, they mill and sell it immediately and they do not pay the farmers. Therefore, farmers should be free to sell their cane to those factories which have cash and can pay. There is always an arrangement between the sugar factories. If a farmer has a loan from any particular sugar factory and he delivers in a different factory in a different zone, normally that factory in a different zone that has purchased sugar from this farmer, will deduct the loan and pay that particular factory which is owed money. There is no risk of farmers avoiding to deliver sugarcane where they have taken loan. The loan will be repaid anyway. So, farmers should not be oppressed. I am a sugarcane farmer and there is a factory in Moroni, that has not paid me for more than one year. When other factories come to take my cane, which I have spent money and took a loan to develop, they do not want me to deliver the cane to those factories because they say it is poaching. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I continue to suffer and I have loans which I have to pay as a farmer. When you ask them why they are not paying you and they already took your cane, milled it, and sold it--- Where do they take the money? Do they use farmers' money as their working capital? The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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