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"content": "Division will be at the end. We have three amendments to Clause 38. Chairperson, proceed."
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"content": "Clause 38"
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"content": "Mr. Chairman, Sir, I beg to move- THAT, clause 38(6) be amended in- (a) paragraph (b) by inserting the words “allocated to the Kenya Sugar Research and Training Institute” immediately after the words “research and training”; and (b) paragraph (d) by deleting the words “and shall be managed by Kenya Rural Road Authority of the catchment area” appearing immediately after the words “development and maintenance” and substituting therefore the words “of county roads and shall be allocated to county governments as a conditional grant on a pro rata basis”. Mr. Chairman, Sir, the rationale behind this was that the sugar growing zone cuts across counties. There are roads that run inter-county. Therefore, if it will be put on pro rata basis and managed by the Rural Roads Authority, may be a disadvantage to some counties. Again, during the public participation, the issue of levies being raised, and roads not being maintained was raised by various observant. Therefore, it is important that that is operationalised by ensuring that it is managed differently in a way that those who pay the levies also get their roads maintained properly. Thankyou The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": " Sen. Olekina, I understand you have the amendments by Sen. Sifuna."
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"content": "Yes, I do. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would like to move an amendment on behalf of Sen. Sifuna: THAT Clause 38 of the Bill be amended by inserting the following new subclause immediately after subclause (1) – (1A) The provisions of sub-section (1) shall not apply to imported industrial sugar. The importance of this amendment is because of the levy, which was being imposed. This country does not produce enough sugar. If you apply the 4 per cent levy, it makes it very difficult, such that all the sugar being produced here will become industrial sugar. That is why in the wisdom of Sen. Sifuna, the 4 per cent should not apply to imported sugar for industrial purposes. I thank you."
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"content": " I understand Sen. Osotsi’s amendment is similar to what Sen. Sifuna has proposed. Therefore, we shall drop that amendment."
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"content": "(The amendment by Sen. Osotsi was dropped)"
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"content": "Let us proceed. Do you want to say something on this amendment?"
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"content": "Mr. Chairman, Sir, I support the amendment on Clause 38 by the committee. The Kenya Sugar Research and Training Institute is critical in cane development and sugar industry. That includes from the time it is grown, the type and many other factors. I agree that this should be a conditional grant. Mr. Chairman, Sir, where some of us come from, we normally have tea and sugar cess. You are ware that when they transport sugarcane, feeder roads, especially where sugarcane is planted get destroyed. Factories or millers normally pay cess. I agree that county roads should be left to county governments and given conditional grants, which will ensure the cess that is paid for sugarcane delivery is used to maintain the roads within that area where sugarcane is harvested. In Chemelil-Chemase, Chepterwai Ward, Songhor-Soba Ward in Tinderet, Aldai, Mosop and Kabiyet, most of the roads used to transport sugarcane are in poor and pathetic conditions. Farmers normally complain that they are paid cess. I agree that we should ring-fence this. We should not be managed by the Kenya Rural Roads Authority (KeRRA). I know Members of the National Assembly wanted to be mischievous."
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"content": "Mr. Chairman, Sir, with all due respect, I know you are a former Member of the “Lower” House. They want to use the KeRRA to take the normal percentage. We have to appreciate that the KeRRA has continued to be inept in their duty even with the current floods. Most roads are under the KeRRA. Kenyans cannot access their homes due to poor drainage. We cannot continue giving them more jobs when they have failed in what they are supposed to be doing. Let us give the cess money in order to ring-fence county governments for maintenance. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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