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            "content": "Mr. Chairman, Sir, this is because, you cannot have a miller without a farmer or a farmer without a miller. There is that Siamese or symbiotic relationship that is within the The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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            "content": "industry. I, therefore, agree that they must be there so that their interests are protected, especially now, when we are removing the management of the sugar from the AFA."
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            "content": "On the pricing committee, we are having a crisis with the sugarcane farmers. A few months ago, the tonnage was around Kshs6,050 and now it has fallen by a half. There was hue and cry by the sugar cane farmers with the arbitrary lowering per tonne of selling the sugar cane."
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            "content": "The sugar pricing committee is critical. When you look at the Bill as is proposed, we will ensure that the interests of farmers are well catered for and not only on pricing. For example, thanks to his Excellency, the President for providing subsidized fertilizer, it has become easy for farmers to produce more tonnage. This goes a long way to ensure that the representative of the pricing committee and the board becomes easier."
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            "content": "I thank you."
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            "content": " Sen. Cherarkey, you are taking advantage to go to the contents of the Bill like we are in the Second Reading. Just make a comment on the amendment."
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            "content": "I thought you were one of the seasoned legislators in the Senate. The new-comers like Sen. Mundigi are doing well. He is not just talking for the sake of it, but he is now a veteran. Sorry, Dr. Mundigi."
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