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            "content": "without providing any exception, what happens if there is a breakdown and it takes a longer period to repair? Therefore, it was important to make this provision and I plead with you to agree with the wisdom of the committee."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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            "content": " Proceed, Sen. Oburu."
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            "content": "Mr. Chairman, Sir, I do not support restriction. That is why I do not support this idea of bringing in the board to give permission. The farmers should be free to sell their cane where there is good pricing, payment or treatment in terms of business. Some even give loans to farmers to pay school fees when others do not even care. You could be having a child sitting there yet your cane is lying with the sugar cane factories. However, some factories even pay you when your cane is still in the farm. They come and assess your ability to repay and give you the loan to even pay school fees for your children. If you have such kind of treatment and the other factory that had given you a loan are not paying you money, you should be free to sell your cane to them and there be an arrangement where they can recover their loan. If they give me money to develop cane and are not good by not paying me, they will tie me to some draconian agreement, which would make me suffer."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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            "content": " Proceed, Sen. Mandago."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Mandago",
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            "content": "Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, Sir. I am also uncomfortable with that Clause 9A. You know the board chair will be sitting in Nairobi. Farmers will have difficulty in accessing the boards to give their approval. I do not know the wording that can be amended whereas it is important to make sure that there is a bit of control. However, for them to apply to the board, it will take ages and they will extremely suffer. I do not have a problem with the explanations that have been given on the zoning, but on this restriction. Why would a cane farmer who may not have loans have to seek permission? Why can I not take my cane anywhere I want? I submit."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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            "content": " Proceed, Sen. Wakoli David."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Wafula",
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                "id": 348,
                "legal_name": "Davis Wafula Nakitare",
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            "content": "Let Members ventilate. I will bounce back."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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                "legal_name": "Murungi Kathuri",
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            "content": " Anybody calling on the Chair, huwezipata . I am using the screen, stop calling the Chair. Keep quiet. What did you say, Sen. Wakoli?"
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                "legal_name": "Davis Wafula Nakitare",
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            "content": "It is not like I am not interested. I am considerate of Members, especially proponents of the Bill to expose what is in detail. Thank you."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kathuri",
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            "content": " Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey."
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