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"content": "Mr. Chairman, Sir, we are well guided. However, I also want to put it this way. We know that most of the times, we operationalize laws by creating regulations. We created a board in this particular Bill because we need to bring some sanity. We know that if we leave it to people to decide what they want to do, there will be abuse. The question that has been asked makes a lot of sense; how will peasant farmers access the board? I want to put it this way. It is the regulations that will operationalize how they will access the board without even necessarily having to capture it in the document."
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"content": "I believe that most laws are operationalised through regulations. I understand the concern of Members that the Ministry takes a long to bring these regulations. It is our interest as a committee to ensure farmers in this county get their services and income optimised by ensuring the laws and regulations address the pertinent issues, as have been raised in this House. I submit."
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"content": " Sen. Wambua, proceed."
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"content": "Finally, Mr. Chairman, Sir, I get the Floor. Members, we need to appreciate where we are coming from. I have sat in this committee and been engaged on The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "this issue of sugar from the last session and even now. Someone will say that I do not produce sugar where I come from, but I am a net consumer of sugar."
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"content": "We are coming from a situation where we have a monster called the AFA. This AFA pretends it can regulate every crop and everything under the sun. They create directorates. Sugar is an important sector in the economy, but is managed by a directorate under AFA. I hear my brother, the Senior Counsel, asking why we want to expose farmers to a board. My response to this is that the board is better evil than AFA because the farmers are on the board. In AFA they do not exist and sugar is under a Nairobi-based directorate. The decisions are made in Nairobi and implemented on the farms. Secondly, let us be reminded that three or four years ago, there was a taskforce that was set up to look into this matter of the sugar sector. This taskforce came up with recommendations that have found their way into this Bill."
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"content": "The Chair has not asked whether I want to be informed."
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"content": " Sen. Wambua, we are in the Committee of the Whole. Give some comments."
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"content": "When Sen. Wambua informs it is a problem, and when other people inform, it is okay. What is the problem?"
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