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"content": "Madam Temporary Chairperson, this is usually a very important stage in law-making. I am a bit uncomfortable because before this amendment was done, Homa Bay County was missing. If I had not been in this House or if someone was not going to point it out, perhaps Homa Bay would have missed out on the sugarcane zones and that would have been a great tragedy. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Chairperson, my concern is when this Bill came from the National Assembly, we had one Schedule, which was supposed to suffice for election and delivery of cane. I have not heard the strong justification from the Mover of the amendment, who proposes a New Second Schedule for sugarcane zones, because the problem is that it has disaggregated. For example, in the First Schedule, you will find that Kisumu, Migori, Homa Bay, Kisii and Narok counties are in the southern zone. In the Second Schedule, you will find that Kisumu has now moved to central region. Kisumu is now with Southern Nandi and Kericho counties. This could be mischief, but I do not want to impute improper motives. I would like the Mover of the Second Schedule, not just to leave it to be included in the amended form, but to justify and tell the House why the Second Schedule is significantly different from the First Schedule. This is because if you are going to use a unit for elections, then it follows that that electoral unit has similar interests and concerns. That is the unit you also use for development of cane. This can bring about certain confusion. I do not see the Member for Kisumu County, but I would have been interested to find out whether he is comfortable with that. That for election purposes, Kisumu is lumped up with Migori, Homa Bay and Kisii counties, but for cane development purposes is lumped up with Southern Nandi and Kericho counties."
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"content": " Chairperson, Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries, that concern is valid."
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"content": "(Sen. Cherarkey spoke off the microphone)"
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"content": "Do you have a concern which is aligning to the concern raised by the Senator? Okay, I will let you ask the question, then, the Chairperson can prepare to respond to that. The concern to justify why the Second Schedule has been adjusted is valid."
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Chairperson, for the indulgence. When you look at the Bill, Clause 6B, the First Schedule is specifically used for elections of farmers' representatives from the five regions for purposes of elections to KSB. He asked a very important question. I come from Nandi County. We do not have a miller or a sugar factory. I am only 18 kilometres from the many factories that are in Kisumu. The reason I want to work with Kakamega for cane development is because most of the factories are in Kakamega, for example, Naitiri, Kabras, and Butali. When you come to Nandi South, we have Kibos, Muhoroni, Miwani, Sony, among others. That is why this Second Schedule is very critical because it is convenient for farmers of cane development. For example, Nandi does not have even one sugar milling factory, but Kisumu has more than seven. If you go to Nandi, Kericho and Uasin Gishu counties, it is only Kericho that has one sugar factory that might not be able to accommodate the capacity because it might only be crushing 1,200 metric tonnes. Chemelil-Chemase, which is only 18 kilometres from Kisumu, produces 1,800 metric tonnes. You have not added Sigowet-Soin, Kipkaren, Aldai, Mosop and Tinderet. So, the one factory will be overwhelmed. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "The intention of this was for purposes of cane development and delivery only. However, when it comes to elections, we remain with the First Schedule to allow farmers to elect and also for regional balance."
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"content": "On a point of information, Madam Temporary Chairperson."
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"content": "Yes, you can inform me through the Temporary Chairperson."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Veronica Maina",
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"content": " Sen. Cherarkey, business is not conducted like that. I am in charge. I am the one to request you whether you want to be informed."
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