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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Oundo Ojiambo",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, as it might look plausible, the principal Act says that the provision of this section shall stand repealed within 10 years. That means that if you had an issue about any historical injustice, you must have petitioned the NLC and the courts and must have exhausted all avenues within 10 years. Indeed, the Constitution has been with us for over 10 years and the NLC has been with us for all those years. This was an amendment that was brought by Hon. Owen Baya and I can understand the historical aspect of it, including the issue of absentee landlords. But, honestly speaking, we must bring some issues to a closure. We cannot live in eternity with a problem. There must come a time when we bring it to a closure. Even when you have a dispute with your neighbour, common sense and fairness require that you must bring the matter to a closure. We cannot leave a matter open forever, because then the NLC will perpetually do nothing else but be saddled with boundless and endless complaints of historical land injustices. When we did general surveys many years back, land boundaries were never precise or fixed. That is why even the Constitution talks about traditional dispute resolution mechanisms. Yet, this amendment seems to be oblivious to that provision in the Constitution, as much as the amendment is good for his constituency and the coastal strip. The Maasais are going to claim Nairobi because it is a historical land injustice. Yes, the 10 years have lapsed. We could introduce another timeline, but not just leave it open forever."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Hon. Oundo, you have made your point."
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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Oundo Ojiambo",
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"content": " I can make much more points. You know I have a future in this matter."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Order! Hon. Oundo, what you are proposing is okay and yet you know the rules. These amendments are in the Order Paper. You can propose your amendment and say we set the timeline at 10 years. Hon. Omboko, go ahead?"
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"speaker_name": "Emuhaya, ANC",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, let me go on record and I know you may lump me together with Hon. Oundo. When I looked at the amendment, Hon. Baya, we should have thought of an extension, not infinity, so that we can conclude the matters. I do not know what you can do from where you are, but we should not litigate on land injustices forever. We should extend the period for another 10 years, after which we close the issue."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Where were you, Hon. Members? What you do normally in such a situation is that you approach the Member concerned. He may even accept to move a further amendment. Be that as it may, I now put the Question."
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"content": "(Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and agreed to)"
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"content": "(Question, that the words to be inserted in place thereof be inserted, put and agreed to)"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Chairman",
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"content": " There is a further amendment by Hon. Owen Baya. Is it? Chair, next time you move amendments together, not in bits. Which further amendment do you have, Chair? To which clause? You just moved your amendment already."
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"speaker_name": "North Mugirango, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Joash Nyamoko",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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