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            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
            "speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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                "legal_name": "Farah Maalim Mohamed",
                "slug": "farah-maalim"
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            "content": " Hon. Owen Baya and Hon. Members, consult in low tones. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Suba South, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Caroli Omondi",
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            "content": " We should have the spirit that amendments need to be introduced to this particular draft Bill. India, which is the largest democracy in the world, is conducting elections in which 960 million people will vote. The electoral commission of India was formed in 1950. It has only three commissioners. It had one commissioner for 39 years. It was not until 1989 that they added two commissioners. These three commissioners are actually appointed by the President of India, but on the recommendation of a selection panel of three people: The Prime Minister, the Leader of Opposition and a neutral representative of Parliament. If you look at what we are trying to create here, we are compounding our problems. After the last election and the problems we experienced there are four things that these amendments should have addressed. Firstly, we should have timely review and delimitation of new electoral boundaries. It is a shame that we cannot keep constitutional timelines. We have not had the first major review and delimitation of electoral boundaries under the Constitution of Kenya 2010. That is such a national shame. Secondly, we should have timely by-elections. Banissa Constituency has not had a Member of Parliament for close to a year, which is a national shame. When you read this particular draft Bill, you will appreciate that it does not provide solutions to ensure we have timely by-elections. Thirdly, we should have a timely reconstitution of the IEBC when some of its members retire. Again, that is not addressed in this particular Bill. Fourthly, we should have a timely reconstitution of the selection panel. We are not even debating the question of whether the selection panel should be a standing committee or an adhoc committee as it is currently proposed, and its merits and demerits. All these serious issues are not addressed properly here. Most fundamentally, even though this Bill is a NADCO product, it will create more problems."
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            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Suba South, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Caroli Omondi",
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            "content": "The suggested selection panel has 12 members. How they will make a decision by voting or whatever process is unknown to me. Normally, decision making is reserved to an even number of members of an organ. We should have five, seven, nine or 11 members. However, we have 12 members here. Eight of them are from political parties. How is that inclusive and representative? Only four are non-political. There are two persons who will be appointed by the Parliamentary Service Commission, which is a political organ. Three persons will be nominated by the Political Parties Liaison Committee, which is a political organ. One person will be nominated by a political party other than a parliamentary party, which is another political organ. One person will be nominated by a parliamentary party or a coalition of parties forming the national government, which is another political organ. One person will be nominated from a political party or coalition which will not form the national government, which is again politics. There is no room for competent, independent and experienced people to oversee the process. This will create more problems. We are deleting certain phrases in the proposed definition of chairperson. The Bill says that the chairperson shall be the person appointed in accordance with Article 252 of the Constitution. We are deleting the vice-chairperson or a member appointed by the members on a temporary basis to exercise the office of chairperson. That is a very serious problem. It simply means that if there is no chairperson who meets the qualifications of a Judge of the Supreme Court, then the Commission cannot function. There will be no chairperson. The decision of the Supreme Court was whoever exercises, in tempuras, the functions and duties of chairperson should have the qualifications of a judge. So, we should have re-drafted it in a different way and said that the chairperson shall retain the qualifications of a Supreme Court Judge. This should be the vice-chairperson or any other member. In other words, both the vice-chair and the chairperson should, at all times, have the qualifications of a Supreme Court Judge, so that the Commission is not stranded. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Suba South, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Caroli Omondi",
            "speaker": null,
            "content": "If you go further and see the current Act, where the qualifications are provided for the chairperson and the vice-chairperson, you will appreciate that there is even a member who is supposed to have qualification in law. So, there is already an avenue. I do not want to speak too much to it, except warn the House that we need to seriously reflect on this matter. We should allow open debate. Members should vigorously interrogate the proposals that are here, so that we do not have a repeat of every election which comes to this particular storyline of how we need to change the law and IEBC."
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            "text_counter": 201,
            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Suba South, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Caroli Omondi",
            "speaker": null,
            "content": "Nine hundred and sixty million people will use technology to vote in India. I witnessed what happened in 2007 when the Right Hon. Raila won the elections and his victory was stolen because the elections were manual. I insisted with the former President, the Late Hon. Kibaki, and Ambassador Muthaura that we would go digital in our electoral process. That is why we have Electronic Voter Identification System (EVID) and all the technology around voter registration and identification. What we still do not have is electronic voting. It is time we have an open debate on that. It is technology that will give us the integrity we need in our elections, keep clear record and access to information that we need to have credible, fair, reliable and predictable elections. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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            "text_counter": 202,
            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
            "speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
            "speaker": {
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                "legal_name": "Farah Maalim Mohamed",
                "slug": "farah-maalim"
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            "content": " Member for Kuria East. He will be followed by Hon. Wilberforce Oundo."
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            "url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406277/?format=api",
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            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Kuria East, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Maisori Kemero",
            "speaker": null,
            "content": " Mhe. Spika wa Muda, nakushukuru kwa kunipatia nafasi hii. Matukio ambayo yamekumba nchi hii siku za hivi karibuni yameleta Mswada ambao uko mbele ya Bunge hili wakati huu. Lakini matukio hayo yamefuatia matukio mengi ambayo yamekuwa tangu nchi hii ilipopata uhuru. Kila uchaguzi ukimalizika, kunakuwa na nafasi ya Wakenya kuangalia, kuchambua na kurekebisha, kuzidisha, kuboresha na kuendeleza jinsi uchaguzi unafanywa katika nchi hii. Hivi karibuni, tulikuwa na uchaguzi ambao ulikuwa na tetesi nyingi sana zilizoleta mchakato huu ambao leo tunauzungumzia. Hatukubaliani na kila kitu ambacho kilitokana na mchakato wa NADCO lakini kwa sababu ni lazima Kenya iendelee kusonga mbele, baadhi ya mambo ambayo yametokana na hiyo ripoti inatubidi tuyazungumzie na kukubaliana nayo."
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            "id": 1406278,
            "url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406278/?format=api",
            "text_counter": 204,
            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Kuria East, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Maisori Kemero",
            "speaker": null,
            "content": "Ili kuendeleza mchakato kuhusu jinsi uchaguzi utaendelea kufanywa katika nchi hii, inabidi tukubaliane na mambo machache ingawaje kuna nafasi ya kurekebisha baadhi ya mengineo. Ikumbukwe ya kwamba sio zamani, nafikiri ni mwaka wa 2016, kulikuwa na uchaguzi Marekani. Wengi wetu tunaona Marekani kama nchi iliyokomaa kidemokrasia. Demokrasia yao imekomaa kwa takriban miaka 200 kufikia sasa lakini, pamoja na hiyo, kulikuwepo na matukio sawia na yale yaliyotokea nchini Kenya tulipofanya uchaguzi mwaka wa 2022. Hiyo ni kumaanisha kwamba bado mapendekezo yako hata tukirekebisha jinsi gani kulingana na Ripoti iliyotolewa na Kamati hii ama hata na National Dialogue Committee yenyewe. Tatizo sio sheria. Tatizo ni ubinafsi na fikira za watu. Hakuna demokrasia inayoweza kusazwa kwa hili jambo kama demokrasia ya Marekani, ambayo ina miaka mingi. Hili jambo linaweza kuibua matatizo kama yanayoendelea hadi katika mahakama."
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            "url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406279/?format=api",
            "text_counter": 205,
            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Kuria East, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Maisori Kemero",
            "speaker": null,
            "content": "Kwa sababu hiyo, hata mapendekezo yaliyoko mbele yetu sio dawa ya kumaliza shida zilizoko nchini Kenya. Mawazo yangu ni kama yafuatavyo: Kwanza, Mwenyekiti anayepewa umuhimu sana anahitajika kupewa kinga ambayo Waingereza wanaiita insulation dhidi ya baadhi ya mambo tuliyoyaona kule Bomas of Kenya palipokuwa na tatizo hili. Matukio yale yanatusababisha sisi kujifunza kwamba tumempa mtu mmoja majukumu mengi muhimu lakini hatumuamini. Tunamwekea mambo mengi na watu wanamzunguka. Anashindwa kutekeleza kazi yake inavyofaa. Hata akifanya hivyo, anashukiwa. Kwa bahati mbaya, hatuwezi kuweka sheria ya tabia. Kwa Kiingereza, you cannot legislate bad or good manners. Ni vigumu. Lakini itawezekana ikiwa huyu bwana atapewa nafasi afanye kazi yake vizuri alafu sisi Wakenya The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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        {
            "id": 1406280,
            "url": "http://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1406280/?format=api",
            "text_counter": 206,
            "type": "speech",
            "speaker_name": "Kuria East, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Maisori Kemero",
            "speaker": null,
            "content": "tuheshimu kwamba amefuata sheria zilizowekwa akitoa uamuzi. Utakuwa uamuzi wa kubainika. Hilo ni tofauti na kuweka mikangamo na mifumo kama hii ya kielektroniki na mingine ya kuendesha chaguzi. Bila sisi kuwa na imani na yule aliyewekwa pale kufanya uamuzi ule, itakuwa bado ni bure. Tutatumia hela nyingi kutengeneza systems nyingi za kielecrtoniki na nyinginezo. Itakuwa bure bila sisi kumkubali huyu bwana na kukubali kwamba maamuzi anayotoa ni sahihi kisheria, yametosha na ni ya mwafaka. Tunaheshimu mahakama zetu. Naunga mkono Mswada huu lakini Bunge hili lisipoweza kufanya kazi yake vilivyo, tutakuwa tumetoa nafasi kwa mahakama kutunga sheria kwa niaba yetu. Niruhusu niseme kwamba ukabila ndilo tatizo letu nchini. Ni matatizo ya walio wengi na walio wachache. Ni shutuma na namna ya kuangalia yanayokupendeza. Unayavuta upande wako. Hujali masilahi yanayosaidia wingi wa watu. Hayo ndiyo matatizo. Kwa bahati mbaya, hatuyazungumzii. Walio na sauti kubwa wanapata nafasi yao kwa sababu wanaweza kwenda barabarani na kufanya fujo. Hatimaye, wao husukuma mambo yao yakafika katika upeo wa kitaifa. Wao husukuma sauti yao ikasikika na watu wote wakafuata hayo wakifikiri ndivyo inafaa kuwa. Kwa hivyo, ninakubali na kuunga mkono Mswada ili tuendeleze demokrasia. Tunaendelea kwa kila hatua. Tunaweka tofali baada ya jingine tukienda mbele. Mwisho ni kuhusu maeneo bunge. Tumefika sehemu ambayo tutasema tuko kwa hatari na kwamba tumekiuka sheria na Katiba. Bila kuwepo sheria ya kupanua yale maeneo bunge mia mbili tisaini na kutatua jambo hili la Tume ya Uchaguzi na Mipaka kwa haraka, tutakuwa pia tumepitwa na wakati hata tukifanya ule mchakato wa kuyaangalia upya. Kwa hivyo, ninaunga mkono Mswada huu wa marekebisho ambao nimeusoma. Haifai kwamba muhula wa yule mwenyekiti uwe miaka mitatu. Inabidi tumpe muda mrefu zaidi. Isiwe muda wake unaisha wakati chaguzi zinafanyika. Tuweke muda ambao hautakwisha katikati ya chaguzi na awepo ofisini wakati tunatathmini historia ya chaguzi ambazo zimepita. Yaani, huyu bwana awe ofisini wakati tunachambua chaguzi na utendakazi wake. Ikiwezekana, aongezwe muda. Iwapo haongezwi muda, aondolewe . Vile vile, namna ya kumwondoa isiwe ya kuletea nchi utata. Nawachia hapo nikisema asante kwa kunipa nafasi. Vile vile, naunga mkono kuwe na nafasi ya marekebisho ya kuboresha zaidi tunapoendelea mbele. Asanteni sana kwa kunisikiza."
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