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"speaker_name": "Nyando, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Jared Okello",
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"content": " Thank you Hon. Temporary Speaker for finally reaching to me in that catalogue. At the outset, I want to make it clear that I support the Report of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs on its consideration of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.10 of 2024). It is important to underscore that electoral systems are strengthened the world over for posterity. We, as a country, are not gearing towards supporting a particular candidate to be at a vantage position towards the next elections. We want this country to have systems that will withstand the test of time and, at the end of the day, have an electoral merchandise that responds to the needs and aspirations of Kenyans in general. I am buoyed by the fact that both the Hon. Leader of the Majority Party and Leader of Minority Party are co-sponsoring this Bill. A testament that at certain times our country can and should reach out to one another, and in particular, at times when we have friction within our country. Now that both the Hon. Leaders have so chosen to co-sponsor this, I think it is incumbent upon all Members of Parliament in this gallery to support this in its entirety. Stemming from the NADCO Report, we all understand the genesis of this Report: What transpired in our country soon after the elections of 2022. An election that the country has not healed from. Lives were lost. Teargas canisters were thrown at very innocent Kenyans, those who were only exercising their democratic and constitutional rights. The more reason why we must move with speed to pass this Bill so that it can become an Act of this House and of the Republic of Kenya. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "Hon. Temporary Speaker, we have never gotten elections right, from 1992 to the elections 30 years later, in 2022, apart from the year 2002 when the Hon. Prime Minister said, ‘Kibaki Tosha ’. That is the only election that has stood out as the most accurate and transparent. Thereafter, our country has faced numerous challenges. Certain times lead to the deaths of so many people, such as the election of the year 2007/2008. That is why we must holistically look at our electoral infrastructure and make amendments in areas where we are called upon, like the one we see in the NADCO Report. We shall never tire of reorienting our election systems. People complain that there are perennial complainants in every electoral cycle. Far from it. We must change where need arises. We shall do this over and over again until we attain levels of sufficiency in our elections. We will not run away from it. I am glad that the proposals here, such as appointing the new selection panel, do away with the current panel. It is a good step in the right direction. When William Ruto constituted the panel, we made necessary noises towards this. We said an umpire cannot be selected by a participant in an election. Ruto is a player; we went ahead to concoct an entire team that would look at the referee. Of course, with the resultant feature of having his input in the system. Therefore, we are doing away with this panel and incorporating a new panel…"
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"speaker_name": "Gichugu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Gichimu Githinji",
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"content": " On a point of order."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Omboko Milemba",
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"content": " Very well. What is your point of order, Hon. Gichimu?"
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"content": " Is the Member in order to discuss the conduct of His Excellency the President in whatever manner, without a substantive motion? I think the Member should withdraw. If he has any beef with any decision that the President makes, he should bring before the House a substantive Motion."
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"content": " Very well. Hon. Jared Okello. I knew that would be coming. It is per our Standing Orders that you do not use the name of the President. Specifically, it is Standing Order 87. Please withdraw and continue with your very good debating skills, which I know."
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, I am perturbed that I also mentioned the former Prime Minister and no one has been able to correct me. But when I talk about William Samoei Ruto, they are so quick to correct me."
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"content": " Order, Hon. Okello. The Standing Order is specific to the presidency."
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"content": " I stand to withdraw that, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I hope my time will not be tampered with as I make my presentation. I am glad that even as we come up with this new election panel, there is a proposal to retain one of the current members so that we have institutional memory of this body. I am glad to have the inclusion of two more members so that we can reach out to those who play a pivotal role in elections in this country. That is highly welcome. As has been said, all CEOs within the Republic of Kenya serve for a term of three years. This is enshrined in the Mwongozo Code. Nothing of a peculiar nature has been presented before us to exclude IEBC from this category. If somebody convinces the whole country that they are up to the task, they will be given another opportunity to serve three more years and at least administer an election. This should not be subjected to or opened for further debate. There is the idea of delimitation of boundaries, which I believe will certainly bring peace at last. We ought to have carried out delimitation of boundaries in 2019; we are now in 2024. There is some limbo of sorts in that regard. This report, together with the Bill, intend to put certainty and put the matter to rest. There is the issue of 26 constituencies that are still subjected to fear because, according to the previous proposal, they should have been scrapped from the catalogue of constituencies. This idea will now protect them. The additional inclusion The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "of ICT gurus within IEBC is welcome. We have seen crooks who are more techno-savvy than the commissioners, running our electoral systems from outside. They have the capacity to arrest results in the air, change them as they will, and send them to Bomas of Kenya, as corrected. This is a welcome idea. Finally, loyalty and fidelity to political parties is a welcome idea. Political parties have acted as the barometer for democracy and freedom since time immemorial. Therefore, we are not going to allow people to hop from one party to another, and there will be no repercussions. From our end in the Azimio la Umoja -One Coalition, people just walked out and joined Kenya Kwanza, but there was no recourse. They are sitting pretty and without talking to the people who brought them to this house to explain to them why they had to take such a drastic action. As we finalise this Bill, I hope they will be subjected to another round of elections so that people can convince us that they are the ones who sent them to Kenya Kwanza. I thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity."
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