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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg your indulgence and that of the House. As you have said, this is a Bill that has statutory The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "timelines. Unfortunately, it took quite some time, but I must still commend our Committee for doing an impressive job. Given the very strict timelines, ideally, if we had known that we will go beyond Thursday last week when we moved the Bill, perhaps that was the juncture at which we would have limited debate on the matter. Unfortunately, we allowed and many of our colleagues spoke to the Bill. There are still others who may want to speak, given the importance of this Bill. However, we need guidance and to agree as a House. Given that tomorrow is a holiday, we only have two working days which is today and Thursday. On Thursday, the National Assembly proceeds on a one-month recess, a period during which they will be considering the budget estimates and taking on stakeholder inputs. Mr. Speaker, Sir, it would be quite unfortunate if we do not conclude on Third Reading by Thursday and the budget estimates are considered without the input of the Senate on an important Bill such as this on account of the fact that we could not conclude this Bill. Therefore, I request that you guide us into a consensus on whether Members be allowed to speak extremely freely, but have the guarantee that people will not leave the Chamber and will conclude the Second Reading today or we limit time. Either way, Members must stay in because we have strict timelines. We must vote today for the Second Reading and conclude the Third Reading on Thursday. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we can agree on the time that our colleagues take so that we conclude on it. However, I still insist and request Members not to leave the House until we conclude this Order Paper today. I do not know if five minutes is too little of a request. Some are saying 10. I do not know what the Leaders on the other side of the aisle think."
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"content": " Let me hear from the Minority Side before I guide on this matter."
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, we were discussing and agreed that 10 minutes would be okay."
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"content": " Hon. Senators, limiting debate normally happens before any of the Senators stands to contribute or speak on a Bill. However, we are faced with a very peculiar situation where we may allow Senators to speak for the 20 minutes as given to them by the Standing Orders. However, if we go that route and conclude beyond Thursday, then whatever product will come up with may not inform the debate on the other side. As the Senate Majority Leader has said, they are proceeding to engage on the budget and the decision here must be carried by the National Assembly as they do the budget. Alternatively, we limit the time of debate, through consensus, so that we allow as many as of those who would wish to speak to this Bill speak, so that we move time. If we have to be late, then we conclude this debate by Thursday. That is the very latest. Hon. Senators, can I first seek your concurrence to limit debate? To what extent can we limit the debate going forward? There are five minutes and 10 minutes."
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"content": "The Minority and Majority Leaders, you had agreed that you would speak for your respective sides. Whatever you say shall bind your side."
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"content": " I know Members of this House. Unfortunately, if it gets beyond 4.30 p.m. to 5.00 p.m. while Members are still speaking, we may struggle to get the mandatory 24 delegations because I know people will start hurrying out. Therefore, I humbly plead with our colleagues that we take five minutes so that we vote by around 5.00 p.m."
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"content": " Sen. Madzayo, whatever you say shall be deemed to be the position of your side."
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