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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I hear my good friend, Hon. John Mbadi asking me to support but I rise to oppose this Motion by the Member for Bumula, Hon. Jack Wanami Wamboka."
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"content": "Allow me to take this opportunity to thank Hon. Jack Wamboka for having the courage and fortitude to not only collect signatures and bring this Motion but also to prosecute it although he has performed dismally in his prosecution. Hon. Speaker, I keenly listened to you on Tuesday, when you made your Communication on this Motion. This House as you stated, is a House of rules and is guided not just by the Standing Orders but also by our Constitution. If you read through Standing Orders 64 to 66, you will realise that Hon. Wamboka’s Motion falls flat and contra our Standing Orders and the Constitution as well. It is also true that matters to do with the removal of the Office of Public Officers, as you stated in your communication are largely guided by precedence and borrows heavily from court rulings and the threshold set in. The famous Wambora case or the removal of the former governor for Embu County speaks volumes. In that case, one of the things that was made clear is that there must be a very clear nexus between the person being removed from office and the alleged grounds on which that removal is sought. Therefore, the question we ought to ask ourselves is, has the Mover of this Motion, Hon. Jack Wamboka, created or shown us that nexus between the person being removed from office as a Cabinet Secretary and the alleged grounds of removal? And the straight answer is none. There is completely no nexus between the allegations that the Hon. Jack Wamboka presented in his moving of this Motion."
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"content": "Hon. Speaker, protect me from the loud consultations especially here."
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"content": "(Several Members stood in their places)"
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"content": "Order, Hon. Members. Members on their feet, your Standing Orders say only the Member speaking should be on their feet. If you are on transit, then transit to where you are going. Go on."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I was stating that Hon. Jack Wamboka has completely failed to show us the nexus between the allegations that he was speaking about and the person he seeks to remove from office. Indeed, in his own submission, he has alluded to issues touching on the procurement and distribution of fertilizer by the National Cereals and Produce Board (NCPB). Hon. Jack Wamboka is not an ordinary Member of Parliament. Congratulations to him for being a first-time Member of Parliament and also serving as a senior Member of this House as the Chair of the Public Investments Committee on Governance and Education. He knows that because he oversights some of these"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "parastatals that appear before the Public Investments Committee on Governance and Education, he knows that parastatals are semi-autonomous of ministries. Indeed, the State Corporations Act is very clear that Cabinet Secretaries, Principal Secretaries or accounting officers cannot and must never be seen to micromanage parastatals or State corporations. Hon. Wamboka has failed to show us the nexus between Cabinet Secretary Mithika Linturi and the procurement processes or distribution of fertilizers at NCPB. He also failed to inform the House that the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) that has been investigating this matter has already preferred charges against the arrested and preferred charges, which the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) has consented to, for the prosecution of officers that DCI feels might be culpable on the matter of the procurement and distribution of this fertilizer. I was waiting with bated breath for Hon. Wamboka to show us that nexus but he has failed to do so. Therefore, this Motion falls flat on his face. It also lacks clear precision of the violations of law and the Constitution. Hon. Wamboka did not show us a clear violation of any section of the law or the Constitution by Cabinet Secretary Mithika Linturi. Look at the probate value of the issues that the Hon. Jack Wamboka has Tabled before the House. I think the Hon. Murugara and Hon. Owen Baya had alluded to it. He took us through what the Hon. Member for Kilifi North was telling us they were not just excerpts from Citizen and NTV, Nation newspaper, the Star newspapers and other media houses. We have tremendous respect for our media houses. As a Fourth Estate, they have a duty as we do to oversight the Government and the Executive. We must allow our media houses to help us raise issues that are of concern to the people of Kenya just like we do. However, they cannot be the basis in line with our procedures in this House to adduce evidence before this House. I dare ask if we were to prosecute and impeach Cabinet Secretary Mithika Linturi on the basis of newspaper articles… Allow me the indulgence to read a newspaper article that was featured by the Sunday Nation on 14th April 2024 with the headline, ‘House Team Boss on Extortion Spree’. I am reading this article so that we may ask ourselves, if I am that House boss being reported here on an extortion spree, would it be fair for us to impeach myself? If that House boss is Hon. Wamboka, the mover of this Motion, how fair would it be for me to move the House to impeach him on the basis of a newspaper article from a gossip column like this one? This article said that the Chairman of a powerful committee is on the spot for harassing witnesses who appear before him. Talk of town has learned that the Chairman calls Cabinet Secretaries scheduled to appear before his Committee and demands huge amounts of money in order to be looked at favourably when they appear. The Cabinet Secretaries were heard complaining that the Member of Parliament uses threats to demand money at least one week before they appear before his committee. Those who fail to play ball by parting with cash demands are harassed during the appearance and negative reports are given on their manifesto."
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