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"speaker_name": "Ndhiwa, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Martin Owino",
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"content": "The Cabinet Secretary (CS) has contravened five Articles of our Constitution. Be it is parastatal or national, the buck of the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock stops with the CS and no one else. The Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock is a very vital Ministry. In 2022, this docket produced Ksh2.5 trillion to our national Gross Domestic Product (GDP) which translates to 21 per cent. Therefore, anybody messing up with agriculture and livestock, is messing up with food security, employment, national productivity and the health of Kenyans as a whole. If these are messed up, productivity of this country would be messed as well. Governance is also a key pillar to all the three Arms of Government, and if somebody is found culpable, we cannot mince our words. And as Hon. Mbadi says, if you love your CS, let us vote so that the Committee can take up this matter and carry out proper investigations. If your argument is that those media articles and outlets are improper, why defend them now? Let us rise, and vote."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Martin Owino",
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "Anybody supplying or allowing fake fertilizers to be supplied is punishing the soil yet all of us depend on it for production of food and health. The CS has become a disgrace, and I urge the House to support this Motion so that it can roll to the Select Committee which would do further investigations. The dignity of our citizens depends on the behaviour and activities of these CSs wherever they go, be it nationally or internationally. When their integrity, performance and misconduct is in question, we would all stand and let Parliament speak. We are therefore, going to vote and let Parliament become, and be seen as a people’s representative which is serious and ready to stand in for them."
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"speaker_name": "Ndhiwa, ODM",
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"content": "The way the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock is being messed up now with the fake fertilisers and floods, would lead to excessive poverty, outbreak of diseases, disabilities and mortalities which is a serious issue that does not require partisanship. Let us all stand and vote for this so that it can go to the Select Committee."
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"speaker_name": "Ndhiwa, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Martin Owino",
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"content": "Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I donate my time to another Member."
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"content": "Hon. Moses Kirima."
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"speaker_name": "Central Imenti, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Moses Kirima",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker for the opportunity to contribute to this very important Motion that pertains to the impeachment of the Cabinet Minister. At the onset, I stand here to oppose this Motion. It does not meet the necessary threshold, all ingredients and the requirements required to impeach a Cabinet Secretary. When it comes to a ministry, it is very clear that the purpose of a Cabinet Secretary is to articulate policies. As it is, the question before this House tests the integrity, reasoning and logic in the issues before this House. The Constitution of Kenya bestows the powers of the High Court on this House. The powers of this House are those of the High Court. Article 125 of the Constitution clearly states that a Committee with the responsibility to investigate fertiliser issues has the power to summon witnesses and give verdicts. This has been done. We are just waiting for the Committee’s verdict to know who is culpable for the actions that led to the suffering of farmers. Impeaching the Cabinet Secretary does not allow the Committee to conclude its investigations as it should. It is high time this House considers that the sub judice rule is applicable in this House as it applies in all other case laws. What we are going to decide today will influence the Committee’s decision. Impeaching the Cabinet Secretary will squarely influence the decision of the Committee because Members of Committees are part of this House. The Mover of the Motion has just given general issues and generalities to this House. No provision has specifically been pinned against the Cabinet Secretary. General issues have been raised but one question that has come out from every contributor to this Motion is very clear. It is to do with the Cabinet Secretary not being the procurement officer. He has nothing to do with the distribution of fertiliser. He also has nothing to do with the manufacture of fertiliser. He is just there for policy issues. Ther is no law anywhere that says the Cabinet Secretary should carry vicarious liability for actions of his officers. Each person must carry his cross. The House owns a matter coming before it and referred to a Departmental Committee."
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"content": "(Loud consultations)"
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"content": "Order, Hon. Members."
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"speaker_name": "Central Imenti, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Moses Kirima",
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, I need some protection. There is a lot of noise in the House to make sure I am not heard. It is going to The Hansard only. I am not being heard because of there is much noise. Consultations should be in low tones."
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