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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Oundo. Hon. Wangwe."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I want to agree and support the Hon. Member for Marakwet West that, indeed, timelines are very important, especially on very strong issues like these. What I am having reservations about is this: Should there be a situation where, within that one year, it cannot be concluded, what window are we likely to give to the Commission to, at least, extend? If at all we can consider a very unique circumstance which might arise in many cases, so that we do not lock out the possibility of extending the time to look into a very controversial or very extraneous matter beyond that time. Otherwise, I support."
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"content": " There is a very valid point that Hon. Wangwe is making. I know of cases where, when you put a timeline like one year, anything that is done by that Commission beyond that one year is a nullity. So, the question you are asking is valid. If you get an overzealous court, you may have done very hard work for 11 months and 29 days, and you just need another 30 days to finish. But the court will say that anything you did beyond the one year provided for is nugatory and does not help. Hon. Timothy, as a lawyer, you should think about what Hon. Wangwe has raised as a point of mulling over. Do you want to say something about that?"
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"speaker_name": "Marakwet West, Independent",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Timothy Kipchumba",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, litigation cannot be done in perpetuity, even in a court of law. There must be closure to a matter before a court of law. Even in a presidential petition, we have a time limit. If a matter is heard for ten years by the Commission, that, in itself, is a historical injustice. It is an injustice. There must be a determinate period in which a matter is heard and disposed of by the National Land Commission. If you do not give the Commission a time frame in which to hear, determine and dispose of a matter that is taken before it, that amounts to an injustice. We are in a jurisdiction where we normally set timelines on matters. So, I call upon the Members of this House to pass an amendment that will set a timeline to which the National Land Commission can handle a matter."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Thank you. Hon. Nyamai. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"speaker_name": "Kitui South, JP",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I want to support this amendment by the Member for Marakwet West, Hon. Timothy, bearing in mind that historical injustices cases on land are cases that have taken a very long time. Therefore, having a period of six months with the possibility of extending for an additional six months, any further extension would be an injustice in itself. I support. Thank you."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Thank you. Before I put the question for a decision, there is a further amendment to the amendment by the Hon. Baya."
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"content": "(Loud consultations)"
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, with tremendous respect to the Hon. Member for Marakwet West, I agree we must have a timeline in principle, and I support that matter. But, Hon. Speaker, I think we also need to be realistic about the kind of issues that get…"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Order! You are a senior Member of this House. You know why I have asked you to rise."
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