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"content": "Parliament is doing these amendments is a show that we are taking the bull by the horn, to do that which is central and reasonable for the man on the streets. The Bill is good as it is, but I think the Leader of the Minority Party has made a comment that we can expand. We can improve it with the reflections and the information we now have to make it better. I would advise that Members make themselves familiar with the Report of this Committee. If you do, we will not debate this Bill based on a lot of aggression. We will feel that we have brought together the different parties. One thing which has troubled people…"
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"content": "Hon. Temporary Speaker, even if you bring the angel himself to superintend the election, maybe only God is able to deal with human beings. If you brought anybody under God, the Holy Spirit, God the Father or the Son, he would not control human beings. This is because everybody votes, including the archbishop, according to their preference. Whether they announce or not, they have a preference. If you bring a Kadhi, they will still have a preference and it will be one over the others. Let us not be shy about this thing."
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"content": "An election is something which requires practitioners in election matters. We need to recognise that as we have done since the introduction of multiparty politics. They have developed a body of political parties that are drawing consensus around them to be able to practise in this field of democracy and political parties. If these people are recognised in terms of their role in defining the referee, you will have very few complaints. However, if you decide that these people are not practitioners and come from the public service or other entities which have nothing to do with the election, you will still have problems. This Bill is saying that there is an expanded space for practitioners in this field. That is what happens in mature democracies, that is the American and English experience. There would be one, two or three political parties that the country would be gravitating around. If those people are aware and comfortable or they can give confidence in how the referee is chosen, there would be no problem. Everybody else, including some parties here, which are non-parliamentary as I am told, would want to have a bite of the cherry, but Parliamentary parties must be parliamentary parties. The Leader of the Minority Party used the term “parliamentary”, but did not define it. Do not assume anything. Define “parliamentary parties” in the manner in which it is in this Report. Define “parliamentary parties” to mean parties in the House, either minority or majority, making Government or on the minority side. However, if you leave it that way and define it in the Standing Orders, then you have a problem. This is because the Standing Orders are unable to define with legislative authority what those are. The courts have been very interactive in making decisions, but they are not practitioners in this province we call politics. They have a problem with the chairperson. Hon. Opiyo Wandayi, through the Speaker, looking at the manner in which the original Bill was done, you would have created a very big issue of somebody called the ‘chairperson’."
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"content": "Hon. Speaker, if I could just have one minute. We are just a few of us in the chamber and if we got good time, we can do some justice."
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"content": " I can see the time, but Hon. Temporary Speaker, probably..."
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"content": "I will keep to that. We would have made a mistake, Leader of the Minority Party. We would have created somebody called the ‘chairperson’ who is everybody. He is the chairperson and if he is not there to do certain things, then nothing will move."
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"content": " Order! Order, Hon. Members. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "Hon. Kajwang’, when we resume this debate, you will still have two more minutes. With the good behaviour, the Speaker could also add you a few more minutes."
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