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"content": "I would also like to emphasise what another Hon. Member had mentioned. When the procedures are simple, the counties will be able to collect more revenue. If the procedure in western differ from the one in central region, it discourages business people and that impacts the development of our country. We need to develop our country for future prosperity. Therefore, let us have uniformity in all aspects including the consumer, licensing, or relocation of businesses. I agree with the former contributor who mentioned that when you drive from one county to another, there are no boundaries. If stopped while moving from one county to another and are required to pay extra money on the road, it becomes protective, unnecessary, cumbersome, and restrictive."
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"content": "With those few remarks, I support this Bill and hope this House will expedite it in support of the Senate and for the future of this country. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "[The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Gladys Boss) left the Chair]"
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"content": "[The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) took the Chair]"
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Next is the Member for Marakwet West, Hon. Timothy Toroitich."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity to contribute on this important Bill. I rise to support the County Licensing (Uniform Procedures) Bill (Senate Bill No.9 of 2022). I have read that the intention of this Bill is to establish a uniform procedure for licensing by county governments and for connected purposes. When devolution happened in Kenya, its architecture was never well thought out. When county governments were given power to make certain laws on issuance of licenses, the disparity in procedures and the fees charged has brought a lot of complexities for businesses in this country. You find a county charging a higher fee compared to other counties. As much as they have the power to determine the fee to be charged through their local finance Acts, I think it brings issue of inequality. When a tax is not uniform, it becomes difficult to obey that law. If you look at the records of our courts, there are too many legal battles that have arisen out of cross-border taxation matters. In cross-border collection of local revenue, some counties have higher taxes than others. I believe that uniform legislation will sort out this issue to provide a uniform mechanism of collecting revenue and issuance of licenses in this country. There are multiple inconsistencies in the regimes of tax and levy collection. This kind of legislation will create uniformity of procedures that are put in place and reduce issues of inequality in our country. This issue has affected private investors. If foreign private investors want to invest in the northern region, where I hail from… Various counties have different regimes of levying certain charges which creates an inconsistency. If this legislation is passed, it will ease doing businesses in those counties. I rise to support this legislation insofar as it sets the standard or uniform procedures of processing or charging fees and the minimum legal requirements in the processing of licenses. I support. Thank you."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you very much. Next is the Member for Bondo, Hon. (Dr) Gideon Ochanda."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to partly support the Bill. The bit that I support is the logic and practicality behind the difficulties we face from time to time in terms of movement of goods and services. On the other hand, there is a problem of uniformity. As I have said before, we are over legislating for counties. In my view, the issue of uniformity is unconstitutional. The spirit of the Constitution is that we are diverse. We need to do things in the best interest of the local situations that counties find themselves in. Every single time we come up with legislations that set uniformity and dictate what counties do, in my view, it is not good for the counties and for the House. The Constitution requires that as much as the counties are interdependent, they are also separate. We have 48 governments and they offer all manner of services. It is true that counties exist in their own geographies, but they do not exist in isolation. They exist in relation to others. They have to relate with others. However, that kind of legislation needs to be left to the county assemblies of each particular county government to come up with, so that they legislate on how to relate with other counties in terms of movement of goods and services. We are not getting one element right and it needs to be checked. This is not the first Bill that talks about issues of uniformity or that tries to set certain things for the county The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "governments. The county governments are supposed to be semi-independent and to come up with their own legislations and procedures of how to do things. There is a requirement in the Constitution of how counties should raise revenue. They are supposed to be competing in terms of local revenue-raising arrangements. Enforcing uniformity will curtail some counties which may want to raise a little bit more through internal revenue generation. There is a problem. As a matter of caution, somebody may run to court to challenge this Bill if we do not look at it very carefully in terms of its constitutionality and principles of devolution."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Eric Muchangi, the Member for Runyenjes aka Karemba."
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