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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to reply. First and foremost, I thank Hon. Injendi, who seconded this Motion, and all the Members who have immensely contributed to it. This Motion seeks to implore the House to resolve that the Government, through the Ministry of Labour and Social Protection, recognises primary caregivers or persons with severe disabilities as a distinct category requiring social protection and support; and to further develop and implement a cash transfer programme for these primary caregivers. Article 21(3) of the Constitution of Kenya provides that all State organs have a duty to address the needs of vulnerable groups within the society. Article 43 asserts that every person has a right to social security and requires the State to provide appropriate social security to persons who are unable to support themselves and their dependents. It is on this note that I am seeking that the 0.9 million Kenyans who live with a form of disability and their caregivers are supported. A critical challenge that limits the advancement of societies, particularly for the global countries like Kenya, supporting caregivers of those with severe disabilities goes beyond individual benefits. It is important to note that this support fosters social inclusion, promotes equality, strengthens communities and contributes to economic growth. Investing in caregiver support is not just about kindness. It is a smart decision with far reaching positive impacts for everyone. Hon. Temporary Speaker, in a country like ours where economic activities are limited, and money is very scarce, it is always good to think about those who are less fortunate than us. By supporting caregivers, we can build a stronger community with a richer social fabric and reduce the strain on public resources by preventing unnecessary institutionalisation. Politically, it will foster increased civic engagement. Public participation enshrined in Article 10 as caregivers, will have a more bandwidth to contribute to nation building. I have taken the sentiments of Hon. (Dr) Pukose and Hon. Kiarie, the Member for Dagoretti South, who implored that we take this Motion to the next level and have a Bill. When that time comes, I will seek reference to experts so that we realise the dream of giving the caregivers a comfortable life. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I reply and thank all the Members."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Dorothy. We shall defer the putting of the Question on this Motion."
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"content": " On a point of order."
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"content": " Hon. Kaluma, what is out of order? The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am standing before you and the House under Standing Order 131. For clarity purposes, permit me to read what it says: “Where after a Bill has been Read a Second Time and before commencement of Committee of the whole, amendments have been proposed to it, which in the opinion of the Speaker require harmonisation, the Speaker may direct any Member proposing an amendment to the Bill to appear before the relevant departmental committee dealing with the subject matter of the Bill to present his or her proposed amendments and the Committee shall submit a report to the House on the result of the exercise before the Committee of the whole House is taken” I am invoking the provisions of that Standing Order in relation to the next Order, which is to follow. This is with regard to the Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill (National Assembly Bill, No.61 of 2022), which should be proceeding to the Committee of the whole House. Those Standing Order provisions require that if there were to be invocation of the provisions, it be done just before we move. Since that is the next Order, I am so moving. Hon. Temporary Speaker, this is a Bill brought by my senior sister, Hon. Millie Grace Aoko Odhiambo Mabona. It is a Bill which has been brought before the House on a number of occasions before. If you can look at the Order Paper, there are several amendments proposed to the Bill. There are very many amendments proposed by the relevant departmental committee, which is the House Committee in charge of health under the able leadership of Hon. (Dr) Pukose. Those amendments, you will note, begin from the definition of provision, that is Clause 2, dealing with provisions. From the Order Paper, you will also notice from page 393 that there are very many amendments. If you look at these amendments, they also begin from Clause 2 of the Bill and they touch on several provisions. In fact, I can say over 90 per cent of the provisions of this Bill are being proposed to be amended by myself. I know it is not the stage to go into the details of those proposed amendments, but that is the reason I am moving, so that as we go for winnowing, the matters we can agree on, we do so. After that we can come back with an agreed position. This will save Parliament's time. For instance, I am proposing an amendment to the word ‘couple’. I am just giving this as an example. My concern is that a word like couple is already defined in the Marriage Act and in the Constitution, but the manner in which it is being defined here, any association of people can meet the definition of a couple. This will open a pandoras box. If you look at something like that, ‘any association of people…’ and by the way, it is not specific."
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"content": " Hon. Kaluma, do not go to the details of the amendments."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, you will note all that I am simply saying that a couple is a male and female. This makes it constitutional. There are several amendments by other Members. The highlight of those amendments is that while they are keeping to the substance of the Bill, they want to preserve the substance of the Bill. They do not seek to kill the Bill. They seek to ensure that ultimately, what this House passes is not only properly aligned to the Constitution and the other existing laws like the ones I have mentioned, but also, we do not over-elevate positions which otherwise we should be providing solutions to. Hon. Temporary Speaker, for that purpose, I am moving the House through you and very humbly, that because of the number of amendments and the depth with which they need to be considered, including those constitutional considerations, that the House directs under Standing Order 131, that all Members proposing amendments, including myself, approach the Departmental Committee on Health. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "That can be timed even if it is within the week or by next week that the Temporary Speaker decides that the winnowing process would have taken place. Then we come back with a report which would have harmonised so that those provisions we virtually agree upon can be passed. I do not believe the Mover will disagree with me on some of the amendments, including that one on couple, which I believe will be opening the institution of marriage to these things we call homosexual associations or other forms of associations. I pray, very humbly, that you direct everybody with amendments, including those Members whose amendments are still under process, to appear before the Departmental Committee, together with the proponent of the Bill, experienced Member, Hon. Grace Odhiambo, so that we return to the House with harmonised amendments. It will save the House time. It will also bring all the thoughts that are critical to this important matter to bear before we pass the law. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " We have heard you, Hon. Kaluma. I will indulge the Chair of the Department Committee. I will also indulge the Mover of the Bill. I will start with you, Hon. Millie and then go to Hon. (Dr) Pukose."
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