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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you, Hon. Millie. Hon. Naisula Lesuuda, the Member for Samburu West."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity to contribute to this very important Motion of The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "Adjournment on the increased numbers of accidents on our roads. I thank Hon. Oscar for bringing this Motion. I want to add to what my colleagues have said. It is very devastating and painful to lose many people every single day on our roads. Even one life lost is too much. Seven people were buried in Makueni yesterday. I can only imagine the pain that family is undergoing as it buried the seven members in one day. As Hon. KJ has said, we have to look at ourselves as Kenyans. We have very bad manners when it comes to the way we drive and cross roads. We do not follow traffic laws if there is no police officer. It is a matter of training and changing our mindset as Kenyans in terms of valuing our lives and the lives of others. It has been said that the Government’s role in enforcement of traffic laws is very important to ensure that we reduce the number of accidents. If you go to the developed world, it is not so much about what people would like to do, but it is about enforcement. You automatically know that you will lose your driving license for a year or two if you make many mistakes. Because of the cameras on the roads, you will get your fine waiting for you at your doorstep. People will then tend to follow the laws of the country. We are not short of laws and policies. We cannot run away from enforcing them so that people can correct their bad manners and ensure that we follow the law. Go to a country like Rwanda, which is our neighbour. We have said it many times. We should not compare ourselves to other countries. Other countries should be learning from us. There is discipline in Rwanda, right from boda bodas. Traffic laws are enforced by ensuring that they wear helmets and even passengers have helmets. They stick to their lanes. We should ensure that traffic laws are enforced and corruption is eradicated. Once corruption is entangled with law enforcement, it becomes impossible for proper enforcement to be done. I do not want to belabour the point. It is just unfortunate that we only talk about these issues when many accidents have occurred. That is when we see officials from the responsible ministry, and even we ourselves in Bunge talking about road accidents. This should be done every day, even when we do not have accidents. We should follow the law and enforce traffic laws every day and not wait until there are many accidents across the country to start trying to bandage a wound. Thank you for this opportunity. I hope we will change our mannerism and enforce traffic laws in our day-to-day lives."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Moses Injendi, the Member for Malava."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also rise to appreciate Hon. Oscar Nabulindo, the Member for Matungu, for this Motion of Adjournment. Those of us who have travelled to foreign countries, particularly Europe, America and even Rwanda know that we do not see police officers on the roads, and accidents are minimal. I am just wondering why the Cabinet Secretary for Roads, Transport and Public Works has decided to recall the NTSA. We recall that time it was being removed from the roads, it was because of how it was acting thus leading to many accidents in the country. If the deployment of NTSA officers plus police officers back to the roads is an issue of corruption, then it is very obvious that corruption will now be on the increase. It will be at its highest because both of them are public servants; they are employees of the Government. So, if police officers are taking bribes, then NTSA personnel will continue taking bribes too. In any case, even previously, NTSA personnel were the most corrupt in the country. So, the issue should not be increasing inspection on the roads, but rather improving police oversight. The other issue that I feel causes accidents on our roads is poor road designs. I want to cite the case of the road from Kakamega to Kaburengu in Kakamega County, specifically the The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "junction at Kaburengu. The design of the road is so poor that we always have accidents, particularly at Kaburengu. I do not know why this should be a problem because I believe we have engineers who can draw and design roads and do what is required. Even after design and construction of the roads, they have no sign-posts. So, you find, for example, a place that has a depression, there is no proper indication for drivers to reduce speed of their vehicles. We need to find ways of reducing the number of accidents on our roads. During the late President Moi’s regime, he had banned driving of lorries and trucks at night. I do not know what happened to that decision. As the previous speaker has just put, we have rules and laws. If the current Cabinet Secretary can effect the rules, including the ‘Michuki rules’, the issue of trucks and lorries moving at night would be checked. Hon. Temporary Speaker, on school buses, a careful look will reveal that they are not designed properly. They have a weak structure. When they are doing a speed of, say, 100 kph, they are prone to rolling. The bus designers need to recheck and reconsider the body design of school buses and other buses on the roads. The other victims of road accidents are motorcyclists. In Uganda, motorbike riders respect traffic rules. Here in Kenya, it is very interesting, they respect no rules, not even traffic rules. They move about even on highways as they wish causing a lot of confusion on the roads. When the lights are on for pedestrians to move, the motorbike riders also move thus causing a lot of accidents in the country. I do not know if we can talk about salaries, but I know of some drivers from the western part of Kenya who drive from western Kenya to Nairobi. It takes between eight and nine hours to get to Nairobi from Kakamega. The driver who started the journey, say, at 7.00 a.m. arrives in Nairobi around 5.00 p.m and he is expected to drive the bus back to western Kenya. I think we will also have to look at this matter. It might be an issue of payment by the employers who may want to have only one driver for purposes of managing their wage bills. Otherwise if this is taken care of, we might control the number of accidents in the country. I thank Hon. Nabulindo for this Motion."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr.) Rachel Nyamai): Hon Cynthia Muge, the Member for Nandi."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for giving me this opportunity. I appreciate Hon. Nabulindo, the Member for Matungu, for bringing this Adjournment Motion. It is, indeed, important that we have a discussion as a House of representatives of the people of Kenya. There is no one thing that will make traffic fatalities go away. We must work together, and that entails drivers, road users and every other stakeholder in the road sector. Just like Members have said, we do not have a deficit of laws and policies in this country. We have too many of them. The only problem is that the policies and laws that have been drafted and passed, unfortunately, have been used as cash-cows. You go to the roads and you find a very sad situation where the traffic police know that there is a problem with the driver and his vehicle. The driver and the owner of the vehicle also know that there is a problem with the vehicle they are driving. However, the two parties, the traffic officer and the driver or the owner of this vehicle decide to pacify the situation by exchanging some petty notes, Ksh50 or Ksh100, so that they can be left to go about their business. This is a problem and this is the situation that we must speak to and sort out. I remember when I was a small girl, the ‘Michuki rules’ were in force. If you look at the Report that came out after three months of the Michuki rules, you will find that road accidents had come down by a whole 74 per cent. There is no magic that Hon. Muchuki, as a Minister for transport then, employed in that situation. He actually ensured that there was implementation of the policies and laws that had been passed by Parliament and that had been put together by experts. That is the only thing that he did. Many people thought that the enforcement of those policies and laws was brutal, but Hon. Temporary Speaker, it does not The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "matter how bad or how good the enforcement is. What matters is that order is brought to our roads. This is a hard decision and someone must take responsibility. Like Hon. KJ has said, it is the responsibility of Government, as the Constitution states, to protect its people. Therefore, it is the responsibility of this Government to ensure that laws and policies are enforced to the last bit. This is so that we can sort out this mess, have order on our roads and reduce deaths. You should see how painful it is to put four people from the same family in coffins. I do not think there is anything as hurtful and painful as that. This is something that can be sorted by all of us playing our respective roles. As a driver, you do your part and as an enforcement officer, entity, or body you also do your part. Ensure that you are doing the right thing at the right time so that we can save our people and reduce accidents. I appreciate Hon. Nabulindo for coming up with this Motion, and I want to support what Hon. KJ said that something must come out of this so that it does not become one of the Motions that is added to our names as having spoken to it. Let it give a tangible resolution to this particular problem that we are speaking to, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I appreciate the opportunity to speak to this matter."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr.) Rachel Nyamai): Hon. Francis Sigei, the Member for Sotik."
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