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"content": " Hon. Millie, I direct that the word “delusional” as applied in reference to a Member of the House be withdrawn. Just withdraw it; it does not hurt."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, it hurts, but I withdraw. It hurts so much because I believe he is. I withdraw."
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"content": " Thank you for withdrawing. Hon. Members, allow me to give directions on the issue raised by Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah. The matter raised concerns about decorum within the House and how we should conduct ourselves while in the House during debate, whether in the Plenary or Committee of the whole House. The Speaker finds himself in a difficult position because he was not in the House when this issue was raised. Therefore, the presiding Speaker has not been fully informed. This matter was also not part of the report from the Committee of the whole House. Members will agree that the report was restricted to the consideration of the Bill on the Floor. Regrettably, I cannot make a firm decision regarding the Member accused of having conducted themselves in the said manner. I cannot demand that they withdraw or apologise for their actions. I want to leave it at that. Also, I confirm that everything that happens in the House is recorded. If the said incident was not captured in the Hansard, other processes can be used to inquire and establish the truth. If there were any instances of misconduct or unparliamentary behaviour in the Committee of the whole House, as indicated by the Leader of the Majority Party, then those approaches can be taken. These include our proceedings under Standing The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "Orders to name with evidence or under the governing Act governing the immunities, privileges, and the code of conduct to which Members are bound. I direct that the matter rests because it is impossible for the Speaker to conclusively determine what happened. However, I leave it open to the Leader of the Majority Party or any other concerned Member with how we should conduct ourselves during debate, to pursue it through the other prescribed avenues under the Standing Orders. The next Order had been read. Who is moving it? Proceed Deputy Leader of the Majority Party."
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"content": "THE NATIONAL LAND COMMISSION (AMENDMENT) BILL (National Assembly Bill No. 43 of 2023)"
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to move that the National Land Commission (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 43 of 2023), be now read a Second Time. This Bill seeks to amend the National Land Commission Act No. 5 of 2012 to confer back to the NLC the power to continue reviewing all grants or dispositions of public land to establish their propriety or legality since Section 14 of the Act has lapsed. The Bill further seeks to allow the NLC to continue admitting and processing historical land injustice claims since the Act provides that a historical land claim may only be admitted, registered, and processed by the NCL, if it is brought within five years from the date of the commencement of the Act. In 2010, when we were establishing the new Constitution, many people voted because many historical land injustices were going to be tackled by this law. Before the 2010 Constitution, many commissions, such as the Ndung'u Commission and many others, investigated the issues bedevilling land in this country. It was established that there were many historical land injustices in the Coast Region, in the Rift Valley, in Central Kenya, and across the country. The conclusion was that we needed an institution that would handle those historical land injustices in the country. Therefore, the NLC was born and mandated under Article 67 to interrogate, establish, and tackle land issues. This would give people a reprieve. However, the National Lands Commission Act came in and limited the constitutional operations by putting a time limit and yet, the Constitution did not put a time limit. A statute of this House, under the National Lands Commission Bill, was prepared, and a time limit was placed on the handling of historical land injustices and the review of grants. A court in this country ruled that this Section was unconstitutional. Today, we have an opportunity to right that wrong."
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"content": "[The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Peter Kaluma) left the Chair]"
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"content": "[The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) took the Chair]"
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