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"speaker_name": "Laikipia North, JP",
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"content": " We lost a Member of the County Assembly (MCA) in Samburu. Those bandits are now targeting leaders. Hon. Kiunjuri can confirm that they even raided my home and killed my herdsmen. As I stand here, I know that I am not safe anymore."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Martha Wangari",
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"legal_name": "Martha Wangari",
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"content": " Well said. Member for Laikipia East."
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"speaker_name": "Laikipia East, TSP",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also rise to express our concerns as the people of Laikipia County. Our fear or anxiety has really gripped our people for the last three months. As it has been laid down clearly by Hon. Sarah, we are visited three or four times every week. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri",
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"content": "For the last four months, bandits have been roaming in Laikipia North terrorising people. During daytime, they scout fearlessly the homes that they will steal from in the evening. They are seen during the day in the conservancies and valleys within Ngare Ndare. What really surprises us is the heavy presence of deployed police officers and Anti-stock Theft Unit. They are around but those bandits still roam freely, and they come and steal. What worries the residents of those areas is that they can come all the way, skip a few homes where there are animals and then they go 20 metres to the Anti-Stock Theft Unit and steal from there. No police officer shoots in the air or comes out of the camp. They have gone ahead to isolate areas. They go to the Chief’s home at Ethi and steal animals. He lives about 50 metres from the Police Post. As leaders of Laikipia County, if our people are not safe, how should we react? Police officers are around but they do not act. Are they submitting, overwhelmed or collaborating with the thieves? So far, so many animals have been taken. The bandits and the perpetrators are still free. None of them has been apprehended. Animal recovery is almost at 1 per cent. Everyone knows where they are taken. The animals are taken through ranches. Our question is whether some ranchers, especially the Ole Naisho Farm, are collaborating with the bandits. That area is expansive. It takes time to move them from villages to the forest. How come they steal and comfortably drive the animals to Mukogodo Forest? They have made it their safe haven. Are those officers and bandits submitting that it is a “bring it on”? If they cannot reverse them, and we do not have enough police reservists, how are we to react? Information is very clear that security forces know where the animals are taken. One wonders if the security forces and the people where animals are taken from know where the animals are. Everybody knows where the animals are. Why can this Government not take action similar to the one that was taken during the raids at Mt. Elgon, whereby all the agencies were brought together? That is even if it calls upon us to amend the law to bring in the army. We cannot have Kenyans terrorised across the country - in the North Rift, the Central Rift and everywhere. We are only hearing that the Government is up in arms and that it is countering them. We have no seen any serious incident that can teach them a lesson. We demand an operation similar to the one that was carried out in Boni Forest. It should be carried out in Mukogodo Forest, the Suguta Valley, and other constituencies and areas where the Government knows stolen animals are taken to. Serious action should be taken so that those people never repeat what they are doing. The perpetrators and the collaborators must be punished in equal measure. We are wasting our time if the Government is not going to do that. We must seal Mukogodo with the Mt. Elgon and Boni forests kind of operations. Combined forces must come there. The Government must show its force. Otherwise, the bandits will remain there. They see that the Government can bark but cannot bite. We agree that the Cabinet Secretary, Kithure Kindiki, is doing a lot of work. However, it is more of paperwork. At the end of the day, if you ask them, he will just be a paper tiger if he cannot bite. We strongly condemn those criminals and their acts of cowardice. We must make sure that the perpetrators are brought to book. It is not okay if the Government does not take serious action to deal with the perpetrators and collaborators. They know them by name. They left two phones when they killed Karisho on Friday. With only that, they can say who those bandits and their collaborators are. This is an enterprise. It is not only about cattle rustling. We must, for the first time, deal with the people who are arming the bandits and those who are involved in that business. At the end of the day, those animals end up somewhere. Some animals are stolen for restocking, as Hon. Kamket would call it. Some rich people somewhere are advancing that business. They must now be called by their names and brought to book. We want a tougher and bigger action this time around. I like the way the Kenya Wildlife Service (KWS) operates. They have their way of eliminating those people if they The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"speaker_name": "Laikipia East, TSP",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri",
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"content": "discover the police are doing nothing. Even those who are sent to steal, with a behaviour of always restocking, must stop. This must end. If you look at who is involved in that business, we already know where our problems come from. Go to Kibish and Kipsing and look at the farmers around there. They are all armed. There are more than 40 to 50 police reservists where the animals are taken from. They have security that is armed by the same Government. It is high time this Government sat down to reconsider its decision on whether it will continue arming those farmers, especially those ones who cannot stop this kind of an attack to the people of Laikipia. Lastly, for us, we agree that the Government is taking action and the armed forces are being employed. However, how do we now gain confidence in the Government if the same officers who are being employed with command cannot take action? Answers to that must be given to us. The only way we will agree and accept that the Government is taking action is when it will recover our animals and have the culprits brought to justice and being punished. Those who make other people cry must also cry. They should not steal our animals at their own leisure and have the pleasure to go and enjoy the loot. With those few remarks, I beg to support and seriously ask this House to consider amending the laws that are necessary to ensure that there is combined forces and action that can be taken with no boundaries. The army, the police and other security forces should and must come in. I support."
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"type": "speech",
"speaker_name": "Hon. Martha Wangari",
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"content": " Thank you. The Leader of the Minority Party."
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"speaker_name": "Ugunja, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Opiyo Wandayi",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me join my two colleagues, Hon. Sarah Korere and Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri, in expressing my disgust at those incessant acts of banditry and cattle or livestock theft in those areas. I really want to subscribe to their sentiments to a large extent. We need to look at the root cause of all this. I am not privy to what goes on there in detail. However, my understanding from what I have been told is that this is no longer just a way of life as we were made to believe when we were young; that cattle theft or banditry is a way of life. No! It has become a pure economic activity. Therefore, it calls for a more in-depth look at what can be done to address the economic situation of the people living in those areas. If they get more gainful economic engagements, perhaps, they will slowly move away from those nefarious activities. That is food for thought. It is the duty of the Government of the day to address those concerns. My second point is tied to the first one. You know, if this banditry is contained, it would create a conducive environment for more meaningful economic activities to take place and in the long run, it will not only help the people who are not only living in those areas, but the whole country. If every single part of the country is economically active or productive, it will contribute to the overall economic development of the country. So, it is incumbent upon the Government of the day to address this issue in a holistic manner. What we have tended to see from time to time are knee-jerk reactions that seem not to be yielding fruits. I am not a security expert like my good friend, Hon. Rasso, but I am not too dumb to see the trends. In the recent past – and this is my own observation – we have done very well as a country and I must commend the current leadership of the National Intelligence Service. We have done so well in containing terrorism in this country. We have done very well in combating terrorism and terrorist acts in the recent past. I attribute this - in my own way - to the National Intelligence Service. However, the question that comes to my mind is: Why can we not use the tactics we have used in containing terrorism in the recent past in dealing with this menace? Is this menace too complex to be dealt with conclusively? Hon. Rasso, you may tell me that after this. What is it that this banditry entails that is so complex for the Government to deal with for the benefit of the country? The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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"content": "As we debate this, I really sympathise with my good friend, Hon. Sarah Korere. That is because I can imagine what she is going through if her life is now in danger. She is not even sure whether she is safe anymore and yet, she is a leader who is elected by the people. What is the situation, therefore, of the rest of the populace; the ordinary people in Laikipia, Samburu, Baringo and elsewhere? This House should now move from mere talk to more concrete actions because we have talked enough. Since I joined this Parliament in 2013 with you Hon. Temporary Speaker, we have had this talk. In every Parliament session, we have talked about this insecurity situation of banditry and cattle rustling, but we do not seem to be getting anywhere. It is now incumbent upon this House to think outside the box and, perhaps, take extraordinary measures to deal with this situation which is clearly extraordinary."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Opiyo Wandayi",
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"content": "With those many remarks, I adopt the sentiments of my two colleagues. Thank you."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Martha Wangari",
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"content": " Thank you. Hon. Member for Saku Constituency."
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